Nick Robertson

[Junohockeyfan]

probably a 3rd or maybe packaged with an asset like that Florida 2nd to a team looking to move cap.

I mean I don't like him but he is capable of getting you 15 goals so if he is packaged with that Florida 2nd maybe there is some value there.

No team has a need for Nick. He’s waiver fodder. He’s a guy you might keep as a 13th forward as a backup for injuries.

 

[mydnyte]

in theory he's worth at least a late 1st ...you typically do not expect a late 1st to be a 15-20 goal scorer, and the probability of a late 1st making the nhl as a top 6 player is low, and about 50% to even make the NHL.
Robertson has an elite shot, and just scored 15 in 69 games playing in the bottom 6, if the Leafs were a weaker team and had him in the top 6 and gave him 15+ mins a night, and some PP1 time, he is an easy 20 goal guy.
you can hope for that production from a late pick, after 2-4 years of development, so, a late 1st is actually a good deal for Robertson for whatever team was lucky enough to get him.

anyone that pays less is getting a steal, and GM's should be all over this guy for his untapped offensive potential.

defensively, he is a hustler and decent on takeaways, and wins more battles than he loses which is good considering his small stature, but, he is small, and can get manhandled on occasion.

 

[Junohockeyfan]

in theory he's worth at least a late 1st ...you typically do not expect a late 1st to be a 15-20 goal scorer, and the probability of a late 1st making the nhl as a top 6 player is low, and about 50% to even make the NHL.
Robertson has an elite shot, and just scored 15 in 69 games playing in the bottom 6, if the Leafs were a weaker team and had him in the top 6 and gave him 15+ mins a night, and some PP1 time, he is an easy 20 goal guy.
you can hope for that production from a late pick, after 2-4 years of development, so, a late 1st is actually a good deal for Robertson for whatever team was lucky enough to get him.

anyone that pays less is getting a steal, and GM's should be all over this guy for his untapped offensive potential.

defensively, he is a hustler and decent on takeaways, and wins more battles than he loses which is good considering his small stature, but, he is small, and can get manhandled on occasion.

If he was an easy 20 goal guy he would be that by now having prime opportunities with Matthews and Tavares.

Fact is he is a tweener. No good enough for top 6 and not suitable for bottom 6. He’s small and oft injured.

No one wants players like this. The only reason the Leafs keep him around is because he’s cheap and the Leafs had zero prospects that were NHL ready to take his place.

In any other team, Nick is waived. He’s a poor man’s kailer yamamoto.

1st round pick value! LMAO

 

[SnizzNasty88]

Adam Pelech for Nick Robertson.

Done.

 

[Galaxydoggystyle]

Cole Caufield for Nick Robertson

 

[Pebble live]

No team has a need for Nick. He’s waiver fodder. He’s a guy you might keep as a 13th forward as a backup for injuries.

I think if you can insulate him on the right line he would be a solid 25 goal guy. But that right line would be a sound defensive centre and probably a big bodied winger to make up for Nick's lack of size.

There are situations out there where he could be a valuable piece. The problem with the leafs is they were already so soft in the bottom 6 forward group and it was difficult to crack the top 6.

 

[Empoleon8771]

Robertson's value is comparable to what Tomasino got moved for last year, it's like a 4th rounder.

 

[Junohockeyfan]

I think if you can insulate him on the right line he would be a solid 25 goal guy. But that right line would be a sound defensive centre and probably a big bodied winger to make up for Nick's lack of size.

There are situations out there where he could be a valuable piece. The problem with the leafs is they were already so soft in the bottom 6 forward group and it was difficult to crack the top 6.

How is it difficult to crack Leafs top 6? You have domi in the top 6.

There was a top 6 spot gift wrapped for Nick playing with very productive C’s and he never could grasp it.

Saying he could produce 25 goals is meaningless when he has never come close to it. If he’s in your top 6 uou aren’t a playoff quality team.

No one wants a tweaner that is a hobbit. Nick is built for the KHL!

 

[BKarchitect]

The flaw with the “Robertson would be a great scorer if he got PP1 and top six ice time” is that no team is specifically looking for a player like Robertson to absorb those kind of high leverage minutes. Not even “weaker teams than the Leafs”. If he is getting those kind of minutes, you have serious problems with your roster construction. If you are constructing an entire line that has to cover up for Robertson’s deficiencies, you’ve already lost the plot.

He’s a physically weak depth scorer who can bag a few goals from lower in the line-up where you can limit his minutes, if you have a depth line with more of a scoring assignment. He should be nowhere near a serious team’s top six as anything more than a “break glass in case of emergency” depth.

 

[mydnyte]

If he was an easy 20 goal guy he would be that by now having prime opportunities with Matthews and Tavares.

Fact is he is a tweener. No good enough for top 6 and not suitable for bottom 6. He’s small and oft injured.

No one wants players like this. The only reason the Leafs keep him around is because he’s cheap and the Leafs had zero prospects that were NHL ready to take his place.

In any other team, Nick is waived. He’s a poor man’s kailer yamamoto.

1st round pick value! LMAO

he hasnt played with either, shows how little you know!!

 

[Junohockeyfan]

he hasnt played with either, shows how little you know!!

He has played with both but did nothing and was demoted . Was a total liability!

if he’s has this 25 goal ability, why has he not played with Tavares or Matthews (which he has auditioned for?) when there is a spot open?

Why are Leaf fans pretending Nick has top 6 capability when he doesn’t? He’s a poor man’s Yamamoto!

 

[Fatass]

If he was an easy 20 goal guy he would be that by now having prime opportunities with Matthews and Tavares.

Fact is he is a tweener. No good enough for top 6 and not suitable for bottom 6. He’s small and oft injured.

No one wants players like this. The only reason the Leafs keep him around is because he’s cheap and the Leafs had zero prospects that were NHL ready to take his place.

In any other team, Nick is waived. He’s a poor man’s kailer yamamoto.

1st round pick value! LMAO

I agree. But there are always dumb GMs. Maybe the Hawks see The Small Robertson as a guy who can play a top six wing role for a season or two while they’re young and better players develop? They might toss a mid round pick?

 

[mydnyte]

He has played with both but did nothing and was demoted . Was a total liability!

if he’s has this 25 goal ability, why has he not played with Tavares or Matthews (which he has auditioned for?) when there is a spot open?

Why are Leaf fans pretending Nick has top 6 capability when he doesn’t? He’s a poor man’s Yamamoto!

actually, not even 1 shift last season at all, outside of pre-season where he lead the team in goals.

he only played a game on JT's wing (and scored) and not the whole game either, and that was pretty much it, and that was 3 years ago, he hasnt been used in the top 6 since.

 

[Dipsy Doodle]

in theory he's worth at least a late 1st ...you typically do not expect a late 1st to be a 15-20 goal scorer, and the probability of a late 1st making the nhl as a top 6 player is low, and about 50% to even make the NHL.
Robertson has an elite shot, and just scored 15 in 69 games playing in the bottom 6, if the Leafs were a weaker team and had him in the top 6 and gave him 15+ mins a night, and some PP1 time, he is an easy 20 goal guy.
you can hope for that production from a late pick, after 2-4 years of development, so, a late 1st is actually a good deal for Robertson for whatever team was lucky enough to get him.

anyone that pays less is getting a steal, and GM's should be all over this guy for his untapped offensive potential.

defensively, he is a hustler and decent on takeaways, and wins more battles than he loses which is good considering his small stature, but, he is small, and can get manhandled on occasion.

The rationale here isn't sound. He's not going to have a role if he's not top 6 because, as you rightly point out, he's small and can get manhandled. Which is why he was scratched for most of the playoffs.

Unlike a 1st rounder, Robertson is waiver-eligible so he'll either make an NHL roster or be lost for nothing. It'll likely be a rebuilding team that can give him a shot that playoff teams can't afford to, which is why it would be shocking if he went for any more than a mid round pick.

 

[Fatass]

actually, not even 1 shift last season at all, outside of pre-season where he lead the team in goals.

he only played a game on JT's wing (and scored) and not the whole game either, and that was pretty much it, and that was 3 years ago, he hasnt been used in the top 6 since.

And why do you think Berube limits Nick’s icetime and scratches him?

 

[miscs75]

Done.

No retention for Adam Pelech either.

 

[Junohockeyfan]

I agree. But there are always dumb GMs. Maybe the Hawks see The Small Robertson as a guy who can play a top six wing role for a season or two while they’re young and better players develop? They might toss a mid round pick?

Hawks have young talent coming in. No need to waste picks on trash.

actually, not even 1 shift last season at all, outside of pre-season where he lead the team in goals.

he only played a game on JT's wing (and scored) and not the whole game either, and that was pretty much it, and that was 3 years ago, he hasnt been used in the top 6 since.

So…. He never got the opportunity the year prior or in preseason? I saw him get lots if chances preseason and he never stuck.

Now why do you think that is? lol

 

[Knies iT]

Hawks have young talent coming in. No need to waste picks on trash.

So…. He never got the opportunity the year prior or in preseason? I saw him get lots if chances preseason and he never stuck.

Now why do you think that is? lol

So…..you make a baseless claim that’s wrong and then try to spin the argument. Clown behaviour.

 

[mydnyte]

And why do you think Berube limits Nick’s icetime and scratches him?

Berube has big man syndrome ...he kept McMann in the lineup over Nick, and that was a mistake, when Nick got into a game the scored, then was sat... coaches has favorites and Berube likes them big, and it may have cost him the series vs the Panthers

 

[Fatass]

Hawks have young talent coming in. No need to waste picks on trash.

So…. He never got the opportunity the year prior or in preseason? I saw him get lots if chances preseason and he never stuck.

Now why do you think that is? lol

I agree the Hawks have young guys coming along who will be far superior to Nick Robertson. But their management might want to have a fully physically developed and experienced guy fill in those top six minutes for a year? Let those younger guys develop with a less prominent role?
I could see a building team, like Chicago, see the value in that kind of player at a mid rounder. They could sign a UFA but then there’s the term issue. Robertson for one year (maybe two) might be worth a third/fourth? Then just let him walk when his contract is done?

 

[mydnyte]

Hawks have young talent coming in. No need to waste picks on trash.

So…. He never got the opportunity the year prior or in preseason? I saw him get lots if chances preseason and he never stuck.

Now why do you think that is? lol

Led the team in goals in the pre-season, but, Berube never gave him a shot in the top 6, he is biased towards larger players
Robertson is streaky though, so, when he isnt scoring, he isnt doing much else, and on the 3rd line, its not a simple ask to maintain.

 

[Junohockeyfan]

So…..you make a baseless claim that’s wrong and then try to spin the argument. Clown behaviour.

I wasn’t wrong. Nick was tried in a top 6 role as nauseum in preseason to no avail.

Because he sucks!!

And Leaf fans claiming this poor man’s Yamamoto is a potential 25 goal scorer is a joke!

He has zero value. You have to admit that!

 

[Junohockeyfan]

I agree the Hawks have young guys coming along who will be far superior to Nick Robertson. But their management might want to have a fully physically developed and experienced guy fill in those top six minutes for a year? Let those younger guys develop with a less prominent role?
I could see a building team, like Chicago, see the value in that kind of player at a mid rounder. They could sign a UFA but then there’s the term issue. Robertson for one year (maybe two) might be worth a third/fourth? Then just let him walk when his contract is done?

Hawks can easily sign ufa’s for that purpose and not waste a pick on trash.

 

[Fatass]

Berube has big man syndrome ...he kept McMann in the lineup over Nick, and that was a mistake, when Nick got into a game the scored, then was sat... coaches has favorites and Berube likes them big, and it may have cost him the series vs the Panthers

Big boy hockey wins Cups. Berube is a Cup winning coach. He knows if a player like Nick had to be producing offence to be contributing. Even so, I think their D right club could toss the Leafs a mid rounder pick for Nick.

 

[Junohockeyfan]

Led the team in goals in the pre-season, but, Berube never gave him a shot in the top 6, he is biased towards larger players
Robertson is streaky though, so, when he isnt scoring, he isnt doing much else, and on the 3rd line, its not a simple ask to maintain.

Berube never gave him a shot because Nick is a total liability.

Why should any other team give Nuck a shot when the Leafs won’t and the Leafs have a need for a top 6 forward? Nick is small and useless. Berube agrees with me!