Ianturnedbull
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Value of: Nick Robertson to a non-contending team willing to move a top 4D
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Just saying that Robertson is not what the Habs should be looking for. Pass.
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Robertson for Savard + 4th (2022)
Robertson + 2022 (2nd) for Edmundson
Robertson + 2022 (2nd) for Edmundson
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2017 prices are not realistic in 22-23.
See Chiarot deal last year and thats about what you are looking at. It would be Robertson + a good pick to get anything close to a top 4 guy....
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For The Habs the main goal would be the 1st rounder and adding Robertson would be the + to get it done
zar
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To Canadiens: Robertson + Holl ($2m) + 2023 1st (unprotected).
To Maple Leafs: Edmundson @ 50% (2 years until UFA)
To Maple Leafs: Edmundson @ 50% (2 years until UFA)
Ianturnedbull
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I agree that Robertson needs to improve, but his trajectory for someone who just turned 21 is actually quite good and is being overlooked. That said you would need to add, especially depending on the return's contract.
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It's pretty obvious you haven't seen him play if you think he won't fetch a top 4 D.
You probably think Shane Wright can't fetch a top 4 D because he was scratched too am I right ? Or does that logic only apply to Robertson ?
In a world where if you watched him you'd know the reason he's been in the AHL and not NHL is back to back major injuries, not a lack of skill/effort/talent
And even this year he absolutely should be in the lineup, Keefe is just making a dumbass decision by keeping him out. Same way he makes the same dumbass decision to play Justin Holl over and over again
Shane Wright confirmed bust, if he was good enough he wouldn't have been scratched !
Shane Wright is in his draft year... Hardly comparable.
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The cap has zero to do with it.
If The Leafs want a top 4 guy it will cost more than Robertson. Hand picking a trade from 7-8 years ago is irrelevant. If you want more accurate prices for those type guys look at Chiarot or Savard from the past 2 years.
Its not Leaf hate, its just the way it is. No GM will line up to help them out. They will line up to take advantage of a team desperate for change and even more desperate for dmen.
We're already playing Smith, Sherwood, McCarron, Sanford and Jankowski over Tomasino, who's better than Robertson, why would we give up a player who plays a position we need more of?
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Naw, I'd rather the Leafs keep him. Kid plays well and wears his heart on his sleeves.
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Severson
First one allows the Devils to allow Bahl to play further up the lineup and I think he's better then Graves
Second one gets the Devils a 1st that Severson will probably get at the deadline and a player that can somewhat replace Wood as he is going to price himself out of NJ
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Robertson
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Robertson +1st
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Severson
First one allows the Devils to allow Bahl to play further up the lineup and I think he's better then Graves
Second one gets the Devils a 1st that Severson will probably get at the deadline and a player that can somewhat replace Wood as he is going to price himself out of NJ
I can’t believe I have to explain to you that there is a lot of difference between an 18 year old just learning how to be a pro sitting for a game or two and a guy 4 years post draft who can’t crack the team’s regular starting lineup.Imagine reading that and thinking I'm comparing Robertson to Shane Wright LOL
Do I really have to spell it out for you ? I was showing how garbage and flawed that logic is, just because someone gets scratched doesn't make them a bad player or a bust. Jeez cannot believe I seriously had to type that out for you
Get this, I’m not saying he sucks. What he is is nothing special. The Leafs and every other team have similar level prospects.
A guy who can’t crack a teams 3line by this time doesn’t get you a “real” top 4 Dman.
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The Hainsey trade was in 2017. It's 2022. The math doesn't work for me here.
No that's your Fantasy to see "no GM" help them out. If it makes sense to a non-contending team to get Robertson+ (not a first), then they will come up with a proposal that makes sense for both teams.
Hating is your business. To NHL GMs moving a top 4 D with a 1-2 year term might be advantageous to get Robertson+.
Absolute garbage. He is a scoring line winger. They couldn't fit him under the cap. And when they are able to he is handicapped by an incompetent coach.
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zar
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Comparing the logic, not the players. Crazy I still have to explain this. Being scratched doesn't make someone a bad player. Not sure why this is so difficult for some people to understand.
Sorry buddy anyone who claims this doesn't know what the hell they are talking about. Please watch the players you're discussing, this is why me and other Leaf fans have pretty much dismissed your posts. Absolutely no idea about what kind of player Robertson is at all and the more you talk to the more evident it is.
Again still don't understand that I was breaking down how flawed that logic was, being scratched doesn't mean you're not a good player. Go check the leafs board or twitter lol most of the fans are having a meltdown that Robertson is a healthy scratch once again.
Also take a look at the injuries he had to recover from, you're implying he isn't good enough to crack the lineup when in reality he had significant injuries in his D+2 and 3 years and now Keefe is just being a dumbass electing to scratch him.
