Confirmed with Link: Nick Robertson asks for trade

[DarkKnight]

Berube seems like a guy who regards effort and desire. Nobody questions Robertson’s motor, if he doesn’t get traded, he can carve out a role here imo.

 

[TMLAM34]

Regarding the smoke in the air between Toronto and Carolina, something around Robertson + for Drury would be pretty good.

 

[Roo]

The notion of Robertson getting an offer sheet makes me lol

 

[IrishInOntario]

It's a shame Toronto doesn't have a 1st round pick next year, because I'd definitely offer Winnipeg Robertson and a 1st round pick for McGroaty based on the following simple premise... Toronto would be likely to pick in the #20-#32 range again next year. If they believe that McGroaty is legitimately a top 15 talent from his draft class, has a skill set they're looking for, and is likely to be ready to contribute on an ELC in the next 1-2 years... That's more than worth it to me given how many late 1st round picks end up being top end players and how long it usually takes for them to reach that point. With Matthews and company in the midst of their primes, finding cheap, high end talent that is NHL ready (or close) to surround them is paramount.

 

[Woodman19]

Offer sheet is BS, everything Toronto gets blown up to the most extreme case. No way Carolina is going to create that much animosity around the league over a non elite player like Robertson.

We go through this over every single player lol

 

[ToneDog]

It's a shame Toronto doesn't have a 1st round pick next year, because I'd definitely offer Winnipeg Robertson and a 1st round pick for McGroaty based on the following simple premise... Toronto would be likely to pick in the #20-#32 range again next year. If they believe that McGroaty is legitimately a top 15 talent from his draft class, has a skill set they're looking for, and is likely to be ready to contribute on an ELC in the next 1-2 years... That's more than worth it to me given how many late 1st round picks end up being top end players and how long it usually takes for them to reach that point. With Matthews and company in the midst of their primes, finding cheap, high end talent that is NHL ready (or close) to surround them is paramount.

This ^^^. It would go a long way if we could replace Bert with a quality winger on an ELC. Tre should be all over this, just like Dubas should have been all over Bennett. When opportunity knocks, answer the door.

 

[Sypher04]

why? is the Leaf's entitlement quota full because of Mathews, Marner, and Styles?

There’s a fairly significant difference and I think you know that. Those 3 are not only our best players but among the best players in the entire league. Conversely, Robertson is a 22 year old trying to stick at the NHL level.

 

[ULF_55]

The Leafs should work on a package that sends Robertson to Winnipeg for Rutger McGroarty.


The Leafs should make a play to pry Rutger McGroarty out of Winnipeg

News broke last week that Jets 2022 first-round pick Rutger McGroarty was seeking a trade, with most assuming that a deal could come across the finish line as soon as a few days ago so Winnipeg could recoup a first-rounder in this year’s draft. It hasn’t happened yet, but there’s still a strong chance he could be moved as the first round kicks off in less than an hour.

McGroarty, 20, was one of the best players in college hockey this season. Suiting up in his sophomore campaign at the University of Michigan, he finished top ten in NCAA-wide scoring with 52 points (16 goals, 36 assists) in 36 games. He was a nominee for the Hobey Baker Award for the top player in collegiate hockey and captained the United States to a gold medal at the 2024 World Juniors, scoring five goals and four assists in seven games.



Typically, a player growing up a Leafs fan is a fun little tidbit for fans and nothing more, but in this case, where McGroarty could potentially have a say in where he ends up, it might work in Toronto’s favour.

Probably be done if Jets had any interest.

 

[ULF_55]

Good. Now Tre can ask for something
unreasonable in return because it’s Calgary.

Payback

No.

Just ask for Andersson retained.

No malice.

 

[ULF_55]

So I posted this in another thread but Jonas Segal said on Overdrive last week that this isn’t about playing time. It’s about how he was treated as a player by Leafs development staff. Robertson feels like he has no clear direction from the staff. When he asks for a path forward and how he can improve he’s never given a straight answer. Then we he finally gets an answer and goes out and works on it, he’s told he’s not good enough or not doing that thing good enough. He feels like he’s been toyed with by the development staff and feels in limbo.

If this is true, you can see how that may have negatively affected his mental health.

I'd be surprised if this was true at all.

When has anyone ever mentioned anything similar?
Mostly you hear the complete opposite.

Sounds like an attitude you don't want around your prospects.

Or a complete misinterpretation of what Robertson was trying to relay.

 

[Dekes For Days]

Yup, those crappy forwards we added only managed to outscore 3 of the core 4….

They certainly managed to pick up more fluffed up secondary assists and not be injured. Unfortunately doesn't change how poorly they played.

 

[francis246]

I'd be surprised if this was true at all.

When has anyone ever mentioned anything similar?
Mostly you hear the complete opposite.

Sounds like an attitude you don't want around your prospects.

Or a complete misinterpretation of what Robertson was trying to relay.

I took it as that’s Robertson’s side. But he probably has some issues with communication or receiving feedback. I mean this isn’t uncommon in sports. Players and Player development staff don’t always get along or have great relationships.

To be honest I think it’s a 50/50 thing. The team hasn’t handled Robertson the best. But Robertson hasn’t done anything to really establish himself as a top 6 guy.

 

[Dreakmur]

They certainly managed to pick up more fluffed up secondary assists and not be injured. Unfortunately doesn't change how poorly they played.

Ah, the core 4 were probably just unlucky like Perfect Dubas. Poor guys do everything right and just can’t catch a break!

 

[Maple Leaf]

I wouldn't trade this guy with the exception of a beneficial return as the cap strapped leafs need a cap casualty roberson to pinch in some goals from the wing

 

[Gilmour1996]

If I was Nick, I would investigate HGH...at least for the offseason.

 

[Punch Drunk Loov]

I think if someone offers a 2nd he's gone. Nobody is going to do that though. He's small, not fast enough, needs sheltering

Hes literally a perfect fit for the leafs who need depth scoring. He can even move up the lineup if there are injuries.

Hell Nick only missed so much time because of his own injuries

 

[JT AM da real deal]

Get some draft capital next year for him .. he can't play Berube hockey .. and he won't be happy on farm this season

 

[ponder]

It's a shame Toronto doesn't have a 1st round pick next year, because I'd definitely offer Winnipeg Robertson and a 1st round pick for McGroaty based on the following simple premise... Toronto would be likely to pick in the #20-#32 range again next year. If they believe that McGroaty is legitimately a top 15 talent from his draft class, has a skill set they're looking for, and is likely to be ready to contribute on an ELC in the next 1-2 years... That's more than worth it to me given how many late 1st round picks end up being top end players and how long it usually takes for them to reach that point. With Matthews and company in the midst of their primes, finding cheap, high end talent that is NHL ready (or close) to surround them is paramount.

Yeah I'm a McGroaty fan too, I'd do Robertson + Minten for McGroaty (and also feel that's pretty fair value both ways).

 

[Machinae]

We've now changed GM and Coach in back to back years and now he asks for a trade?

Must have more to do with culture than any animosity with the org itself at this point. He is literally primed to replace Bertuzzi here, top-9 role is right there to be earned.

 

[Stringer Bell]

We've now changed GM and Coach in back to back years and now he asks for a trade?

Must have more to do with culture than any animosity with the org itself at this point. He is literally primed to replace Bertuzzi here, top-9 role is right there to be earned.

Cowan
McMann
Knies
Jarnkrok
Domi

He needs to beat out one or more than one of those five, right? If he has any confidence in his abilities he should be able to.

 

[RoadWarrior]

I don't trust anything Wickenheiser says when it comes to this stuff.

She's been saying Alex Steeves is ready for at least the last couple of years. Guy is a AAAA player at best and she keeps hyping him up.

Mason Marchment and Carter Vearheage were supposed to be career minor leaguers but turned into impact NHL players. Steeves might have that ability as well. He’s absolutely ready for a 4th line role. If Connor Dewar is awarded too much in arbitration then Steeves could easily fill his role.

The Leafs should work on a package that sends Robertson to Winnipeg for Rutger McGroarty.


The Leafs should make a play to pry Rutger McGroarty out of Winnipeg

News broke last week that Jets 2022 first-round pick Rutger McGroarty was seeking a trade, with most assuming that a deal could come across the finish line as soon as a few days ago so Winnipeg could recoup a first-rounder in this year’s draft. It hasn’t happened yet, but there’s still a strong chance he could be moved as the first round kicks off in less than an hour.

McGroarty, 20, was one of the best players in college hockey this season. Suiting up in his sophomore campaign at the University of Michigan, he finished top ten in NCAA-wide scoring with 52 points (16 goals, 36 assists) in 36 games. He was a nominee for the Hobey Baker Award for the top player in collegiate hockey and captained the United States to a gold medal at the 2024 World Juniors, scoring five goals and four assists in seven games.



Typically, a player growing up a Leafs fan is a fun little tidbit for fans and nothing more, but in this case, where McGroarty could potentially have a say in where he ends up, it might work in Toronto’s favour.

Why would Nick Robertson be willing to sign an extension with Winnipeg?

 

[banks]

A Robertson trade is a move that you almost can't win. Even if we get full value for him, let's say a 2nd rounder for argument's sake, he could still end up breaking out with the new team and we take a loss. Or you end up missing on the pick at the draft table.

I hope they don't move him just yet. Let him play. This team has terrible forward prospect depth. You can't find a roster spot for this guy?

 

[JT AM da real deal]

A Robertson trade is a move that you almost can't win. Even if we get full value for him, let's say a 2nd rounder for argument's sake, he could still end up breaking out with the new team and we take a loss. Or you end up missing on the pick at the draft table.

I hope they don't move him just yet. Let him play. This team has terrible forward prospect depth. You can't find a roster spot for this guy?

He is too slow and he is too small to play Berube's wall game .. and we already have too many other small forwards who will struggle in Berube's system

 

[leafan11]

To be fair, Robertson played all 6 other games vs Boston and had no real impact whatsoever (~10 mins per)

Not true he had multiple scoring chances in games 1 and 2. Gregor had 0 scoring chances.

 

[Isaac Nootin]

Get some draft capital next year for him .. he can't play Berube hockey .. and he won't be happy on farm this season

What's Berube hockey? He values compete, which Robertson provides. The idea that he wants the broad street bullies is nonsense.

Look at his cup team, many players similar to Robertson on the roster......Schwartz, Bozak, Fabbri etc. etc.

He'll be fine.