Player Discussion: Nick Paul

[TheDaysOf 04]

The headline on nhl.com

 

[Bevans]

Question for Tampa fans.

Would you trade Cirelli for Ottawa's 7th overall, if it meant you could re-sign Paul for 4 or 5 years at an affordable caphit, one that comes in well below what Cirelli is, and will, be paid

 

[JFleegs]

What a pickup, knew he'd pay dividends. Hagel on the other hand

Hagel gets a lot of flack but he had a big hand in that OT Point goal.

Anybody still think we lost that trade with Ottawa tho? JFBB

 

[DarrylshutzSydor]

Paul scored both goals and did play a pretty good game, but also is the terminus of soo many plays. The leafs goal was scored after Paul gave the puck up in the offensive zone. He did good, but still has a lot to prove. Vasi is the reason the Bolts won this series.

 

[Rschmitz]

Hagel gets a lot of flack but he had a big hand in that OT Point goal.

Anybody still think we lost that trade with Ottawa tho? JFBB

In a 7 game series even a blind squirrel will find a nut.

He’s been unremarkable, which is better than being bad I guess

 

[aessi]

Would you trade Cirelli for Ottawa's 7th overall, if it meant you could re-sign Paul for 4 or 5 years at an affordable caphit, one that comes in well below what Cirelli is, and will, be paid

No, just because we don't need draft picks we need cost-controlled players who can contribute now. Cirelli leaves a hole in the lineup. If this was summer 23 and we knew we could not keep Cirelli maybe then yes.

 

[RussianGuyovich]

In a 7 game series even a blind squirrel will find a nut.

He’s been unremarkable, which is better than being bad I guess

Tied for 5th on the team with 4 points, and less than 15:00 toi? Also his speed on the forecheck causes trouble for the other teams defenseman. I’m happy with his contribution, frankly. He’s out scoring goodrow/Coleman.

 

[JFleegs]

In a 7 game series even a blind squirrel will find a nut.

He’s been unremarkable, which is better than being bad I guess

I mean that squirrel finding 2 nuts in a game 7 is a pretty damn good squirrel!

 

[Bevans]

No, just because we don't need draft picks we need cost-controlled players who can contribute now. Cirelli leaves a hole in the lineup. If this was summer 23 and we knew we could not keep Cirelli maybe then yes.

Does losing Paul not leave a hole? He played 22 minutes last night.

 

[Rschmitz]

Tied for 5th on the team with 4 points, and less than 15:00 toi? Also his speed on the forecheck causes trouble for the other teams defenseman. I’m happy with his contribution, frankly. He’s out scoring goodrow/Coleman.

I mean that squirrel finding 2 nuts in a game 7 is a pretty damn good squirrel!

He's alright

 

[Stammertime91]

Tied for 5th on the team with 4 points, and less than 15:00 toi? Also his speed on the forecheck causes trouble for the other teams defenseman. I’m happy with his contribution, frankly. He’s out scoring goodrow/Coleman.

Agreed. He's replaced Coleman in my books. Hagel has a ways to go as far as contributing off the score sheet to equal Goodrow. Cirelli in games 6 and 7 was about as close to Gourde as it gets. Just not as fast...

 

[2CHAINZ]

Big dick Nick don't dissapoint

 

[CupsOverCash]

Damn what a stud 2 goals in game 7 in Toronto!!

 

[Langdon Alger]

Damn what a stud 2 goals in game 7 in Toronto!!

In his home town no less. Good for him.

 

[Stammertime91]

What's even better is that he was an Ottawa player and the whole pick for Spezza part. Lmao damn Toronto is just the gift that keeps on giving.

 

[Golden_Jet]

Sens fan here, great seeing Pauly play since the trade, possessed last night, loved the drive to the net last night, trying for the hatty.

Sens had offered around 2.6-2.7 x 4 years reported. Sounds like he wanted 3-3.2 x 4.
Maybe less in Florida with taxes.

Paul also won fittest at camp last couple of years and hardest chop couple of years ago.

Good luck.

 

[AlwaysSunnyInTampa]

We need to get Gourde back and put him with this guy. I'm dead f***ing serious

 

[Stammertime91]

We need to get Gourde back and put him with this guy. I'm dead f***ing serious

Imagine. Lol. My gosh.

 

[Master P]

We need to get Gourde back and put him with this guy. I'm dead f***ing serious

I've been saying that since the regular season lol. It would be incredible.

Imagine trying out Colton Gourde Paul

 

[Rschmitz]

Question for Tampa fans.

Would you trade Cirelli for Ottawa's 7th overall, if it meant you could re-sign Paul for 4 or 5 years at an affordable caphit, one that comes in well below what Cirelli is, and will, be paid

Probably

 

[BoltzManConstant]

Question for Tampa fans.

Would you trade Cirelli for Ottawa's 7th overall, if it meant you could re-sign Paul for 4 or 5 years at an affordable caphit, one that comes in well below what Cirelli is, and will, be paid

No. Cirelli is worth more than one first. The rest is irrelevant because it doesn't affect Cirelli's value on the market.

 

[AlwaysSunnyInTampa]

Trade Serg to make it happen

 

[Bevans]

No. Cirelli is worth more than one first. The rest is irrelevant because it doesn't affect Cirelli's value on the market.

The question was, is cirelli worth a first and the space to keep Paul to play in his spot.

If Paul's playing 22 minutes and scoring 2 goals in game 7, at a much cheaper hit, then it's something to consider.

IF cirelli were to be traded, this summer is the best time and you wouldn't want to do it without knowing what his replacement is.

 

[BoltzManConstant]

The question was, is cirelli worth a first and the space to keep Paul to play in his spot.

If Paul's playing 22 minutes and scoring 2 goals in game 7, at a much cheaper hit, then it's something to consider.

IF cirelli were to be traded, this summer is the best time and you wouldn't want to do it without knowing what his replacement is.

Repeating yourself doesn't make the irrelevant part less irrelevant. For symmetry, I'll repeat myself: No. Cirelli is worth more than one first. The rest is irrelevant because it doesn't affect Cirelli's value on the market.

If your proposal is a good bit more than Ottawa's pick, then maybe worth it. And yes, we wouldn't just trade a guy in a vacuum -- we'd consider what it does up and down the lineup. Moving Cirelli is one way to keep Paul, but certainly not the only one. Without knowing what Paul is going to demand, can't really say what other moves make sense.

 

[Bevans]

Repeating yourself doesn't make the irrelevant part less irrelevant. For symmetry, I'll repeat myself: No. Cirelli is worth more than one first. The rest is irrelevant because it doesn't affect Cirelli's value on the market.

If your proposal is a good bit more than Ottawa's pick, then maybe worth it. And yes, we wouldn't just trade a guy in a vacuum -- we'd consider what it does up and down the lineup. Moving Cirelli is one way to keep Paul, but certainly not the only one. Without knowing what Paul is going to demand, can't really say what other moves make sense.

He's paid 7 million in real salary and teams know that Tampa will be hard pressed to keep him.

If we compare him to a guy like Reinhart, I would suggest the 7th is better than Levi and Panthers 1st, and reinhart is better than cirelli.

I think you're over estimating value of cirelli with 7 million in real salary next year and under estimating a 7th overall and the cap space.