Confirmed with Link: Nichushkin back in assistance program; suspended a minimum of six months
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Have you upgraded your premise now to it definitely happening and not him just promising? My apologies for that mistake
AvsMakar08
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You are reading too much into this. There was never a promise. There was only "if he promises to".
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What's that white stuff around him? Keep him away from the team please.What if THIS guy is real?
Vegas odds are likely the same!
cinchronicity
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Does anyone know where Nuke is, geographically? If I understand Stage 3, he must participate in an in-house program and I cannot imagine there are many trustworthy programs in Russia. Is he in a program yet? Is it here in Colorado?
In truth, I can think of no better situation than for Nuke to force his way into a bogus Russian program, then fail his first test before activation back in the NHL. Did anyone get that hooker's phone number?
In truth, I can think of no better situation than for Nuke to force his way into a bogus Russian program, then fail his first test before activation back in the NHL. Did anyone get that hooker's phone number?
AvBuff
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Don't laugh - legally, that might be our best option . . .
Grigowski
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That will require a settlement and contract termination, or?
I dont see the Kroenkes wasting money for that.
So either Nuke nukes himself into phase 4 and out of the NHL, or we have to trade his ass for peanuts.
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henchman21
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Grigowski
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He and his cap is done for us. I dont care if another team thinks he is worth another shot.
henchman21
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Phase 4 simply has a suspension and no guarantee of reinstatement. That is much different than saying his current contract is voided. In theory, Nuke completes phase 4 and follows all the rules… his contract would still be on the books. Phase 4 is not a get out of jail free card on his contract.
I think Nuke is done here now, it is just about the most viable path for the Avs to rid themselves of him. Which I still think is both parties terminating and moving on prior to July 1.
Grigowski
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If the AVS can get this done, great. As long as this player and his cap is gone.
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ANewHope
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It has to increase the odds tho? If Nuke enters phase 4 the Avs would have a better chance terminating without penalty vs phase 3 right?
I think the Avs need to remove emotion from the situation and just make the best business decision. I get the room is going to be upset but a rough season/half season is better than having a cap penalty IMO. Avs simply can't afford it the next few seasons.
henchman21
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Sure it increases the chances, but it would still be challenged and end up in mediation.
hockeyfish
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A big risk in allowing Nuke to come back is that is 100% shuts the door on Drouin returning. Now what happens if there is no Drouin, Landy winds up being terrible, and Nuke screws up again? We might end up with Wood and LOC flanking Mitts. Thats a team that is at risk if missing the playoffs.
ANewHope
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Yeah I was under the impression at the very start of the situation that phase 4 was basically an auto termination. Sucks that it's not.
I know I'm in the minority but I'd rather roll the dice they get lucky in Stage 4. I know you risk him staying clean but Avs can't afford to take a cap penalty.
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I feel like your hurting the team no matter what you do. Won't matter that we kept Drouin 2 seasons from now when your still paying Nuke 2-3 mill. Next season is an uphill battle anyway you slice it.
Getting out of the contract with zero penalties should be the main priority. I know everybody thinks this core has 1-2 seasons left but paying a 3 million dollar penalty in 2026 will be brutal. Were seeing firsthand how important cap space is.
henchman21
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Definitely not an auto termination. I would say in any case, the odds are high that any termination is going to be met with some sort of a cap penalty. Another stage would likely lessen that amount, but odds are it would still exist.
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I guess if that's the case it doesn't really matter. I have no idea how it works so at this point stage 4 has just become a fantasy land I guess lol
Getting hit with a 2-3 mill cap penalty slams the windows shut. I get the first two years will be small and maybe it's manageable for a season but paying Nuke 2 mill while losing his production is absolutely brutal.
This is a fair point. What phase 4 does is have him suspended a full year. It creates a big problem for 25-26 if he hits stage 4 and then is reinstated but it gets the Avs through next season without having to account for him on the cap
henchman21
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Yeah pretty much. A clarification though, one year from getting pinched. If it happens jan1… it woul be Jan 1 of the following year.
hockeyfish
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There is fairly strong precidence of the NHLPA filing grievence due to contract termination and the team being hit with some sort of cap penalty.
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But since reinstatement at that point is not guaranteed, I imagine the league would work more closely with the team on a solution. Say...just not reinstate Nuke until the following season (2026/27) allowing whatever fix we put in place to remain there until the offseason.
