Niagara Icedogs 2024-25 Season Thread, Part III

[Sam14]

Post-Sam Dickinson TRADE (Sept. 8, 2022 to Nov. 9, 2023)

Niagara to London:

2nd, 2nd, 2nd

3rd, 3rd, 3rd, 3rd, 3rd

4th

5th, 5th

 

[IceDogs452]

Yes which is why it was a back pickup for Humphrey. Federkow 9 assists in 63 games 120 pims and -48. Keane was only for the 1 year so he didn’t make or break any deals

Federkow was a hometown kid who brought a passion every night. He took terrible penalties and was a hot head but we loved him haha. One of the few bright spots last year.

 

[bigsportsfan]

Post-Sam Dickinson TRADE (Sept. 8, 2022 to Nov. 9, 2023)

Niagara to London:

2nd, 2nd, 2nd

3rd, 3rd, 3rd, 3rd, 3rd

4th

5th, 5th

Niagara Fans can feel proud that the IceDogs had a big part in London winning the championship this season.

 

[beastintheeast]

I partially agree with you.

When a player defects there is usually a mittful of picks to replace them. It is a good strategy when you are in a go-for-it situation and short-term picks are a better option than a 16 year old player. Marty Williamson employed this tactic successfully.

In the case of Sam Dickinson, Niagara was NOT in a position to go-for-it and desperately needed skilled players for their rebuild. Instead, they had a hole in their line-up and the picks we got for Dickinson were squandered like a trash-panda on meth by DD.

The part that was missing then and still is today, is the relationship aspect between team, agent, player and family. The team has to cultivate that dynamic well in advance of the draft and have a strong measure of comfort that when we make the call it will get answered. Scouts play a huge role in this as does the GM and to an extend the HC as well. Identifying talent, is one aspect, but if the player doesn't feel the love - you can't convince them after the fact just because you called their name.

That is the difference between the good team and the lucky team and then the unlucky team.

An example I know of and am sure is done by the good teams is that Killer used to visit the family after players were scouted and talk to them to make sure that if he called their son's name, he would report and be happy. He also answered any questions they had.

Unfortunately, many teams rely on the OHL scouting system and do not do their own homework; Kingston last year was a prime example.

The other issue is the fact that the playoffs are at the same time as the draft, which limits the time that people can go visit.

 

[beastintheeast]

I’d be happily surprised if they won’t drop to 4-5 I still have them finishing 6-7

I see Oshawa probably finishing 1st in the division
Barrie has me confused. They got their fames NB line together and are 0-5 since the deadline.
Niagara is sailing nicely along.
Sudbury has made a lot of changes. They have Musty back, as well as News on defence. They are going to make noise.
Kingston is going to make things interesting for Oshawa if they can figure out their goaltending.

I can see Niagara being anywhere from 1st to 5th not any lower though.

I don’t worry about what the fans think from here on out I’d worry about what DD think from here on out especially if they fall in the standings which I’m expecting

DD is going to be happy with what he has and what has shown up. This year was awesome for the Dogs, and next year, depending on who they get in the draft, will also be good. DD as I have stated took a different way to build his team. Whhile most teams want to trade to get higher and better throwing everything away DD and his GM and Boudreau have put together not only a good explosive team but have them playing a system tht promotes the players

DD's job now is to sit back and let the people he hired do their job. Also he needs to promote the hell out of the team this off-season. Get in touch with past STH and see what he needs to do to get them back. As I said this team is built for 2026/2027

 

[beastintheeast]

Post-Sam Dickinson TRADE (Sept. 8, 2022 to Nov. 9, 2023)

Niagara to London:

2nd, 2nd, 2nd

3rd, 3rd, 3rd, 3rd, 3rd

4th

5th, 5th

• 2nd Round Pick in 2024 (London)
• 2nd Round Pick in 2025 (London)
• 2nd Round Pick in 2026 (London)
• 3rd Round Pick in 2023 (North Bay)
• 3rd Round Pick in 2025 (London)
• 3rd Round Pick in 2026 (London)
• 5th Round Pick in 2023 (London)

How many of thee picks did they keep and what do they have this year.


Also, it looks like Moffit might be ready next year. What is Robertson like, and can he take some of the games down the stretch and rest Flores?