Niagara Icedogs 2024-25 Season, Part II

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Brampton has more offensive potential (more good 18 yr olds) than Kingston, but Brampton forwards are poor defensively, and has a 17 yr old goalie without a strong BUG. That has and will keep that team from to the top of the standings until addressed.
Be interesting to see what they do I always thought that would be a good spot for Flores if he was moved over Bryant wonder if it still happens though
 
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…that is some generalization by you. So you’re saying that the other four teams’ F are all collectively and significantly stronger defensively than Brampton Fs?

Yes. Brampton looks like a smaller version of the 2023-24 wolves. Barrie and Oshawa have some outstanding 2-way forwards between them.

Be interesting to see what they do I always thought that would be a good spot for Flores if he was moved over Bryant wonder if it still happens though

Was thinking Sztuska myself.
 

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Yes. Brampton looks like a smaller version of the 2023-24 wolves. Barrie and Oshawa have some outstanding 2-way forwards between them.
I personally have not see any of those teams enough (nor live more than once) to put myself out there with that strong a statement.
Have you seen them enough to make that kind of definitive a call?

Just did a quick check. 6 of their top F; all their D are 6.00 or taller
 
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I’d swap Kingston with BRAM IMO steelheads roster is too good they have to figure it out eventually unless they turnaround and decided to sell
Yeah if Brampton wants to be good this year, they will be. They have a million picks and already the top end talent. I'm just not sure anymore if they'll add at the deadline. Could make more sense for them to trade Rehkopf for a ton and go for it next year. They really don't lose anyone after this year but the OAs and Zidlicky and would have 3 really good OAs in MacDonell, Harding and Misa as none of them are signed right now
 

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I personally have not see any of those teams enough (nor live more than once) to put myself out there with that strong a statement.
Have you seen them enough to make that kind of definitive a call?

Just did a quick check. 6 of their top F; all their D are 6.00 or taller

Just did a quick check using that elite prospect team comparison you referenced earlier; Brampton & Niagara are the two shortest OHL teams.
Brampton can certainly be a top team in the conference if they address their deficiencies; easier said than done though.
 

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Just did a quick check using that elite prospect team comparison you referenced earlier; Brampton & Niagara are the two shortest OHL teams.

Brampton - F -
Martone, Porter 6.03
Van Volsen, Jack 6.02
Zebeski, Mason 6.02
Rehkopf, Carson 6.02
Zidlicky, Adam 6.00
Vaculik, Martin 6.00

Witkowski, Kieran 5.11
Eggleton, William 5.11
Karmiris, Lucas 5.11

Misa, Luke 5.10 ( but NHL Drafted)
MacDonell, Angus 5.10 ( but NHL Drafted)

Brampton - D –
Leskovar, Stevie 6.03
Sova, Spencer 6.01
Dragusica, Luke 6.01
Von Richter, Parker 6.01
Harding, Finn 6.01
Fibigr, Jakub 6.00
Gee, Reed 6.00
 

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Yeah if Brampton wants to be good this year, they will be. They have a million picks and already the top end talent. I'm just not sure anymore if they'll add at the deadline. Could make more sense for them to trade Rehkopf for a ton and go for it next year. They really don't lose anyone after this year but the OAs and Zidlicky and would have 3 really good OAs in MacDonell, Harding and Misa as none of them are signed right now
Martone if drafted by the right team I could see him in the NHL next year

Compared to Matthew and Brady Tkachuk and both guys made it straight to the NHL out of their draft years as 6th and 4th overall picks respectively. I’ve seen martone consistently ranked 2-4 with one placing him at 1 and one placing him #5

Would be pretty risky for Brampton next year especially with the NCAA thing coming into place I could see him jumping ship if not in the NHL. Who would want to play in Brampton?
 

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Martone if drafted by the right team I could see him in the NHL next year

Compared to Matthew and Brady Tkachuk and both guys made it straight to the NHL out of their draft years as 6th and 4th overall picks respectively. I’ve seen martone consistently ranked 2-4 with one placing him at 1 and one placing him #5

Would be pretty risky for Brampton next year especially with the NCAA thing coming into place I could see him jumping ship if not in the NHL. Who would want to play in Brampton?
Toronto area guys probably don't mind playing close to home
 
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Brampton - F -
Martone, Porter 6.03
Van Volsen, Jack 6.02
Zebeski, Mason 6.02
Rehkopf, Carson 6.02
Zidlicky, Adam 6.00
Vaculik, Martin 6.00

Witkowski, Kieran 5.11
Eggleton, William 5.11
Karmiris, Lucas 5.11

Misa, Luke 5.10 ( but NHL Drafted)
MacDonell, Angus 5.10 ( but NHL Drafted)

Brampton - D –
Leskovar, Stevie 6.03
Sova, Spencer 6.01
Dragusica, Luke 6.01
Von Richter, Parker 6.01
Harding, Finn 6.01
Fibigr, Jakub 6.00
Gee, Reed 6.00

The 2023-24 defensively challenged wolves were a bigger stronger version of the defensively and physically challenged steelheads.
Walton 6.06 212 lbs, Pharrand 6.03 192, Musty 6.02 200, Dvorsky 6.01 201, Villeneuve 6.00 195, Yearwood 6.00 190, Konyen 6.00 180, Di Giantommaso 6.00 180 Delic 5.11 198, Coughlin 5.11 194, Goyette 5.11 181,

Collins 6.04 215, VanVliet 6.02 222, DeAngelis 6.02 188, Anania 6.01 200, Mania 6.01 190, McCoy 6.00 205; plus some 6.03-6.05 spares
 

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Be interesting to see what happens now. I predicted an absence or two to lead to a melt down. Now it seems the melt down has caused two absences. Will the team rally under their coach, or will the spiral continue?

Any predictions?
I look at it this way. The team is now 5-5-0-0 in their last 10 games. I think that record better reflects who the IceDogs really are this season.
 
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You wrote: Just did a quick check using that elite prospect team comparison you referenced earlier; Brampton & Niagara are the two shortest OHL teams

You completely missed the point of my reply to what you wrote me (see above). Brampton, with players that size up and down their line up, can’t be the one of the two shortest teams in the OHL as you claimed?
 
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Glad to see someone else is equally confident that Brampton is one those legitimate top teams in the East
All I was saying is Brampton is better than Niagara in my opinion.
Niagara is starting to fall back like I said they would.
I don’t think anyone expected Brampton to start this slow.
They will up shooting up to top 5-6 in east though I believe.
 
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