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NHL's Most Notorious Cheap Shot Artists

Cup or Bust said:
People exaggerate how often these elbows and questionable hits took place. It's not like Messier threw elbows every game, he played 25 years in the NHL. Stevens played 22 years in the NHL, it's not like he threw headhunting hits every game, Pronger wasn't dirty every game also. Of course they are big names so people focus on the things they did but there were other guys that did it also. People are also using today's lens to judge yesterday's events. When I was a kid it was considered embarrassing to get smoked by a hit even if it was an elbow, it means you had your head down like a dork, those types of hits were not looked at the same way as today. What we consider a dirty hit today was barely looked at twice in the 80's and 90's.
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Look, your honor, there were many days when my client committed zero murderers, so to label this man a “murderer” is just silly! Might as well call him grocery man, that’s somethin he does as well sometimes!

Nah I get your point- I’m more sympathetic to the Stevens argument than Messier. Elbows were always dirty, they just got away with more dirty shit back then.

I wonder if Stevens and Pronger are a bit conflicted about their careers. I don’t see ‘em as psychos or complete dumbasses like most of the names mentioned.
 
Coffee said:



@NyQuil talk about Legacy Moments hey ?


(I'm aware of Tuckers antics during the series and past games) Just remembered this all of sudden once you replied to the thread
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It was war between those teams.

I remember Chara was in front of the net on the PP (as he did at times) and Belfour was just slashing him in the legs with his stick.

Once, twice, three times, four times.

He looked like a lumberjack.

They just didn’t call anything in the playoffs at the height of the dead puck era.

He was 4th in all-time PIMs for goalies.
 
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Coffee said:
I'll start off with Matt Cooke, he's done it all been suspended for knees, headshots, and overall dangerous hits. I'm sure we'll see a lot of people naming Cooke



Legacy Moments :

Steve Downie suspended 20 games for a terrible pre-season hit on Dean McAmmond.

Ovi had a few suspensions and some odd knee on knees but I don't think his intent was ever bad
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Bounces R Way said:
Bertuzzi, Hunter, and McSorley would have the claim to the three most notorious incidents. Darius Kasparitis, Chris Simon, Claude Lemieux, Bryan Marchment, Ken Linseman some others that just spring to mind.



Downie, Shaw, and Carcillo were all kind of the same brand of contemptible gutter trash. They're just in the general scumbag bin for me rather than notorious.



When you throw as many hits as Ovechkin has there are going to be some questionable ones. He's not even the most notorious cheap shot artist on his team. Would have Malkin as the dirtier player between the two.
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Amateurs all of them …this thread should start and end with Tie Domi
 
WreckingCrew said:
Scott Stevens
Todd Bertuzzi
Sidney Crosby
Matt Cooke
Bryan Marchment
Ulf Sammuelson
Corey Perry
PK Subban
Jacob Trouba
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I can’t believe it took this long for someone to mention Corey Perry. Cheap shots are his specialty. Maybe not the most harmful guy but the most p***y ass one with his nut shots.

Edit: Sydney Crosby? I think he’s a bit overrated due to recency bias but cheap? I don’t think he was even close to giving as many cheap shots as he got.
 
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As a kid, I watched a lot of Vladimir Konstantinov. He wasn't doing a lot of career-ending stuff, but he threw at least one cheap shot per game.

And Mark Messier needs to be mentioned more. He was actually an ARTIST with it. One of the dirtiest players to escape the reputation of being dirty.
 
FriendlyGhost92 said:
8 posts and no mention of Jamie Benn. Guy really flies under the radar.
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The spiritual successor to Shane Doan. If the Stars lost more games it'd be more apparent tbh. They're both the sort of player where the questionable stuff comes out more once games are out of reach. Hartman does the same thing.
 
syz said:
The spiritual successor to Shane Doan. If the Stars lost more games it'd be more apparent tbh. They're both the sort of player where the questionable stuff comes out more once games are out of reach. Hartman does the same thing.
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Yeah but no one’s gonna name Doan, dude. He gave everything to Phoenix , when he could have had it all anywhere else
 
Rockomax said:
Jarko Ruutu
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Jarkko strikes me more as greasy and annoying than overtly dirty like some of the other guys in this thread.

Coffee said:



@NyQuil talk about Legacy Moments hey ?


(I'm aware of Tuckers antics during the series and past games) Just remembered this all of sudden once you replied to the thread
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That’s just a good hockey play for that era.
 
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marchment dirtiest criminal player ive seen , he purposely attempted to injure players knee's to the point i believed he should have been thrown in jail
 
The Suter-on-Lomakin baseball swing to the face (above) by Gary Suter is stlil probably the worst stick incident I've seen (and it happened in the first year I was regularly watching NHL / international hockey).

Suter also did us hockey fans the great service of ending both Paul Kariya and Wayne Gretzky's primes!! Way to go, sir!! Hats off!

But I think Matt Cooke wins this.
 
iago said:
Benn is #1 in my mind. Anyone willing to crosscheck someone to the back of the neck qualifies as the #1 douchebag.
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He's done that multiple times.

Then there was the time when he and Carlson were racing for a puck and he cross checked Carlson at the hips, right before the red line, sending him crashing into the boards.
 
Bounces R Way said:
Bertuzzi, Hunter, and McSorley would have the claim to the three most notorious incidents. Darius Kasparitis, Chris Simon, Claude Lemieux, Bryan Marchment, Ken Linseman some others that just spring to mind.



Downie, Shaw, and Carcillo were all kind of the same brand of contemptible gutter trash. They're just in the general scumbag bin for me rather than notorious.



When you throw as many hits as Ovechkin has there are going to be some questionable ones. He's not even the most notorious cheap shot artist on his team. Would have Malkin as the dirtier player between the two.
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To be fair to Bertuzzi, he wasn't really all that dirty minus the really stupid Steve Moore business. Not necessarily clean, but not one I think of for overall dirty play.

Kasparitis, Claude, Hunter, Marchment, Brad May, Derian Hatcher, Simon and Ulf Samuellson were up there for dirtiest guys. Harder to include today's players as a lot of the stuff that happened before the 2000s was really far far worse. To lesser extents, both Messier and Pronger were quite dirty. Messier loved his dirty elbows and Pronger got away with a boatload of bullshit.

Underrated for how dirty he could be was Peter Forsberg. He was similar to Kucherov as being star players but did a surprising amount of stupid stuff. Not all time bad, but sneaky dirty plays from both of them anyhow.
 
The Panther said:
The Suter-on-Lomakin baseball swing to the face (above) by Gary Suter is still probably the worst stick incident I've seen (and it happened in the first year I was regularly watching NHL / international hockey).

Suter also did us hockey fans the great service of ending both Paul Kariya and Wayne Gretzky's primes!! Way to go, sir!! Hats off!

But I think Matt Cooke wins this.
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Matt Cooke was an all time douche for sure and is definitely right up there. But one thing that I think maybe puts Chris Simon ahead is the vicious slash to I think it was Ryan Hollweg straight to the throat. I don't recall Cooke ever slashing someone in the throat like that. Suter will always be hated to me for hitting Gretzky like that.

That said, before video I have read of some absolutely nasty stick play involving the head back in the 50s-60s.
 
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