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Corby78 said:
Embracing being a heal because people don’t like you winning is one thing. Doing the same when your team blatantly used a loop hole to avert rules is another. It’s closer to a Houston team flaunting stealing signs than Tom Wilson.
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If it was the Caps, would you feel the same?

I personally don't think they steal anything. IMHO, it's a smart management and huge luck on their part (having players being hurt and short season). They are a talented and good team who won twice in a row and who took a lot of shit in the past. They have my respect.
 
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I don’t in any way feel sorry for their past shit taking…..a whole 20 years in existence and 3 Cups. Boo hoo….

that said, whatever, they won the Cup, that’s not changing, so moving on.
 
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Corby78 said:
Embracing being a heal because people don’t like you winning is one thing. Doing the same when your team blatantly used a loop hole to avert rules is another. It’s closer to a Houston team flaunting stealing signs than Tom Wilson.
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Houston stealing signs was illegal... like the Tom Wilson hits that he gets suspended for and cheered on over here.

What Tampa did was... legal and straightforward in every way, much like the Caps having Kempny LTIR room that they used. Tampa were also one of 2 votes against cap going away during the postseason in 2015 (when Chicago rode Kane's injury to being 5 million over the cap in the playoffs) but the rest of ownership groups, Leonsis included, thought it was peachy.
 
Scorlov said:
Houston stealing signs was illegal... like the Tom Wilson hits that he gets suspended for and cheered on over here.

What Tampa did was... legal and straightforward in every way, much like the Caps having Kempny LTIR room that they used. Tampa were also one of 2 votes against cap going away during the postseason in 2015 (when Chicago rode Kane's injury to being 5 million over the cap in the playoffs) but the rest of ownership groups, Leonsis included, thought it was peachy.
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You know good things can be "illegal" and bad things can be "legal", right?
 
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Scorlov said:
Houston stealing signs was illegal... like the Tom Wilson hits that he gets suspended for and cheered on over here.

What Tampa did was... legal and straightforward in every way, much like the Caps having Kempny LTIR room that they used. Tampa were also one of 2 votes against cap going away during the postseason in 2015 (when Chicago rode Kane's injury to being 5 million over the cap in the playoffs) but the rest of ownership groups, Leonsis included, thought it was peachy.
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Disagree. Tom Wilson is hated for legal and illegal plays, and when illegal he is punished not lauded. In fact the NHL during some suspensions have stated intent over actual action per the rule book.

Tampa blatantly went against the intent of the rules. Do you honestly believe these players magically got well at the right time? Kempny was on LTIR because he was hurt and not coming back. That was the intent. Not hiding players so you can have an advantage. Either the NHL needs to address it or we all need to do it because 18 extra mil is a huge advantage.
 
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I wonder what the Wild are going to do. It’s a bold move to buy them both out but they need to be bold to compete.
 
15m in dead cap in 2023-2025 LMAO

It seems like only the perpetual loser teams like Vancouver and Minnesota got bit by their shitty contracts. Chicago got off scot-free.

I'll take Suter on a 1 year deal.
 
Minny really couldn't retain salary on a Suter trade? It's that hard to move players right now? You'd think retaining a couple million off the AAV would have been preferable to the huge chunks owed a few years down the line. Suter also only had $10M in real money left over the four years. He's no longer in his prime but I figured that would have been movable (even w/ the NMC). Shrug.
 
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Langway said:
Minny really couldn't retain salary on a Suter trade? It's that hard to move players right now? You'd think retaining a couple million off the AAV would have been preferable to the huge chunks owed a few years down the line. Suter also only had $10M in real money left over the four years. He's no longer in his prime but I figured that would have been movable (even w/ the NMC). Shrug.
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Reality check for the people who think Kempny can be moved without paying at least a second.
 
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Langway said:
Minny really couldn't retain salary on a Suter trade? It's that hard to move players right now? You'd think retaining a couple million off the AAV would have been preferable to the huge chunks owed a few years down the line. Suter also only had $10M in real money left over the four years. He's no longer in his prime but I figured that would have been movable (even w/ the NMC). Shrug.
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NMC.

He wasn't being traded, this was the only way.
 
trick9 said:
He wasn't being traded, this was the only way.
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Not without consent, sure. He had the right to elect not to be moved and may have used it. Given that later today is also the deadline for requested waiving the NMC to be exposed for expansion he likely refused that (along with ZP). With good reason. Most of the teams with weaker protected D aren't competitive aside from NYR. Perhaps they and others figured they'd be able to land him for a lower AAV+less term in time. But I figure the market will be very strong.
 
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