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If you think that Alex Ovechkin has been playng anything close to resembling “hockey” for the last decade plus…then I don’t know what to tell you. He’s basically been a marketing gimmick for that organization. It’s not hockey. He doesn’t actually help his team win. He scores goals at the expense of his team, if that makes sense. It might not be so noticeable now because he has a good team around him, but watch him play for a shift. He barely even moves.

This is an actual real post on the Pens board.
 
If you think that Alex Ovechkin has been playng anything close to resembling “hockey” for the last decade plus…then I don’t know what to tell you. He’s basically been a marketing gimmick for that organization. It’s not hockey. He doesn’t actually help his team win. He scores goals at the expense of his team, if that makes sense. It might not be so noticeable now because he has a good team around him, but watch him play for a shift. He barely even moves.

This is an actual real post on the Pens board.
You had me in the first half.

Haters tears only enhance Ovie's greatness.
 
I keep thinking their elite talent is gonna come through and drag them into the playoffs.

I guess there's still time.
If they try to score, they can't defend. If they try to defend, they can't generate scoring chances. They don't have guys who can play a 200 foot game (maybe JT Miller, and he's slowed down), and several of their guys obviously don't want to.
 
I keep thinking their elite talent is gonna come through and drag them into the playoffs.

I guess there's still time.
They had 13 SOG last night in a loss to the Flames. 13…at MSG. They just might be cooked.
 
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If you think that Alex Ovechkin has been playng anything close to resembling “hockey” for the last decade plus…then I don’t know what to tell you. He’s basically been a marketing gimmick for that organization. It’s not hockey. He doesn’t actually help his team win. He scores goals at the expense of his team, if that makes sense. It might not be so noticeable now because he has a good team around him, but watch him play for a shift. He barely even moves.

This is an actual real post on the Pens board.
Anyone watching Geno every game and ripping on Ovie might not be watching the same sport.
Ovie is leading the season in goals pre game
 
If they try to score, they can't defend. If they try to defend, they can't generate scoring chances. They don't have guys who can play a 200 foot game (maybe JT Miller, and he's slowed down), and several of their guys obviously don't want to.
It has to be a coaching problem. Lavi has been the head coach almost 2 full seasons and the team is so hit and miss from game to game. There has to be a huge disconnect in that dressing room. Many of those players have been together for long enough that they should be cohesive. It's not like they have turned over half their roster.

I'd love for them to miss the playoffs.
 
What was Jensen’s value at the time of the Chychrun trade? Late first?

Propably somewhere between late 1st and 2nd round pick. Tough to gauge his value really because while there were lots of teams that couldn't easily add that much cap without moving some, Jensen was definitely one of the more interesting fits to the teams that had cap space given he didn't have any trade protection. Sens GM basically mentioned that at the time of the trade that they struck out on basically all their D targets and we already knew that anyone that has any kind of trade protection has Sens on their no-trade list.
 
Propably somewhere between late 1st and 2nd round pick. Tough to gauge his value really because while there were lots of teams that couldn't easily add that much cap without moving some, Jensen was definitely one of the more interesting fits to the teams that had cap space given he didn't have any trade protection. Sens GM basically mentioned that at the time of the trade that they struck out on basically all their D targets and we already knew that anyone that has any kind of trade protection has Sens on their no-trade list.
I would say second, probably not first.

We love Jensen for the reasons we know but it strikes me as one of those supply/demand things where the number of teams willing to pay for a stay at home puck moving type limited the bidders in the moment, so you end up with a valuable guy who also doesn't help teams trying to move the needle on game breakers.

Doesn't speak less of him as a player, love the guy, but I think that's why that trade shook out how it did.
 
If you think that Alex Ovechkin has been playng anything close to resembling “hockey” for the last decade plus…then I don’t know what to tell you. He’s basically been a marketing gimmick for that organization. It’s not hockey. He doesn’t actually help his team win. He scores goals at the expense of his team, if that makes sense. It might not be so noticeable now because he has a good team around him, but watch him play for a shift. He barely even moves.

This is an actual real post on the Pens board.

Well golly gee shucks I guess it's just pure coincidence that the greatest goal scorer of all time came to a lottery team and they've won the 2nd most games during his career despite having a massively losing record in the games he's missed. - Just your typical 20 year 1500 game lucky streak.
 
Surprised people think it's going to be the Rangers. They look done. It's going to be either Montreal or Islanders.

I keep thinking their elite talent is gonna come through and drag them into the playoffs.

I guess there's still time.

Rags getting outshot 16 to 2, 5 mins into the 2nd is hilarious.

And somehow they still win the game. I don't get the people being dismissive of the Rags. They're 1 season removed from winning the presidents trophy, sweeping the caps, and making the conference final, and it is undeniable that they have enough talent to be a real threat.

They lost trouba, I guess, but other than that, I don't see any really significant changes in the core of the roster from last season to this one.

Momentum can be a strange thing in hockey, and it really wouldn't surprise me to see them sneak into the playoffs and suddenly turn it on.
 
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And somehow they still win the game. I don't get the people being dismissive of the Rags. They're 1 season removed from winning the presidents trophy, sweeping the caps, and making the conference final, and it is undeniable that they have enough talent to be a real threat.

They lost trouba, I guess, but other than that, I don't see any really significant changes in the core of the roster from last season to this one.

Momentum can be a strange thing in hockey, and it really wouldn't surprise me to see them sneak into the playoffs and suddenly turn it on.
They have Lavi in his second year of contract. It all makes sense! Haha.
 

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