NHL Talk - (News n' Scores n' Stuff) | 2024-25 Summer Edition

[tycoonheart]

Surprised people think it's going to be the Rangers. They look done. It's going to be either Montreal or Islanders.

 

[895]

Let's get revenge for the Halak'ing

 

[um]

Surprised people think it's going to be the Rangers. They look done. It's going to be either Montreal or Islanders.

I keep thinking their elite talent is gonna come through and drag them into the playoffs.

I guess there's still time.

 

[um]

Let's get revenge for the Halak'ing

True revenge would be Halak'ing them while they're at the top of the league.

If we beat the Habs, it'll still be a successful season for them.

 

[max21]

If you think that Alex Ovechkin has been playng anything close to resembling “hockey” for the last decade plus…then I don’t know what to tell you. He’s basically been a marketing gimmick for that organization. It’s not hockey. He doesn’t actually help his team win. He scores goals at the expense of his team, if that makes sense. It might not be so noticeable now because he has a good team around him, but watch him play for a shift. He barely even moves.

This is an actual real post on the Pens board.

 

[um]

If you think that Alex Ovechkin has been playng anything close to resembling “hockey” for the last decade plus…then I don’t know what to tell you. He’s basically been a marketing gimmick for that organization. It’s not hockey. He doesn’t actually help his team win. He scores goals at the expense of his team, if that makes sense. It might not be so noticeable now because he has a good team around him, but watch him play for a shift. He barely even moves.

This is an actual real post on the Pens board.

You had me in the first half.

Haters tears only enhance Ovie's greatness.

 

[marcel snapshot]

I keep thinking their elite talent is gonna come through and drag them into the playoffs.

I guess there's still time.

If they try to score, they can't defend. If they try to defend, they can't generate scoring chances. They don't have guys who can play a 200 foot game (maybe JT Miller, and he's slowed down), and several of their guys obviously don't want to.

 

[RedRocking]

I keep thinking their elite talent is gonna come through and drag them into the playoffs.

I guess there's still time.

They had 13 SOG last night in a loss to the Flames. 13…at MSG. They just might be cooked.

 

[Ovechkins Wodka]

If you think that Alex Ovechkin has been playng anything close to resembling “hockey” for the last decade plus…then I don’t know what to tell you. He’s basically been a marketing gimmick for that organization. It’s not hockey. He doesn’t actually help his team win. He scores goals at the expense of his team, if that makes sense. It might not be so noticeable now because he has a good team around him, but watch him play for a shift. He barely even moves.

This is an actual real post on the Pens board.

Anyone watching Geno every game and ripping on Ovie might not be watching the same sport.
Ovie is leading the season in goals pre game

 

[Ridley Simon]

Meh. Let Pens fans swim in their own tears. I don’t GAF about their opinion.

They had their time. Now it’s ours

 

[PlushMinus]

If they try to score, they can't defend. If they try to defend, they can't generate scoring chances. They don't have guys who can play a 200 foot game (maybe JT Miller, and he's slowed down), and several of their guys obviously don't want to.

It has to be a coaching problem. Lavi has been the head coach almost 2 full seasons and the team is so hit and miss from game to game. There has to be a huge disconnect in that dressing room. Many of those players have been together for long enough that they should be cohesive. It's not like they have turned over half their roster.

I'd love for them to miss the playoffs.

 

[Mr Nogatco]

What was Jensen’s value at the time of the Chychrun trade? Late first?

 

[Ovechkins Wodka]

What was Jensen’s value at the time of the Chychrun trade? Late first?

not at all. I had him at a 3rd at tops

 

[trick9]

What was Jensen’s value at the time of the Chychrun trade? Late first?

Propably somewhere between late 1st and 2nd round pick. Tough to gauge his value really because while there were lots of teams that couldn't easily add that much cap without moving some, Jensen was definitely one of the more interesting fits to the teams that had cap space given he didn't have any trade protection. Sens GM basically mentioned that at the time of the trade that they struck out on basically all their D targets and we already knew that anyone that has any kind of trade protection has Sens on their no-trade list.

 

[HTFN]

Propably somewhere between late 1st and 2nd round pick. Tough to gauge his value really because while there were lots of teams that couldn't easily add that much cap without moving some, Jensen was definitely one of the more interesting fits to the teams that had cap space given he didn't have any trade protection. Sens GM basically mentioned that at the time of the trade that they struck out on basically all their D targets and we already knew that anyone that has any kind of trade protection has Sens on their no-trade list.

I would say second, probably not first.

We love Jensen for the reasons we know but it strikes me as one of those supply/demand things where the number of teams willing to pay for a stay at home puck moving type limited the bidders in the moment, so you end up with a valuable guy who also doesn't help teams trying to move the needle on game breakers.

Doesn't speak less of him as a player, love the guy, but I think that's why that trade shook out how it did.