League News: NHL Talk - (News n' Scores n' Stuff) | 2024-25 Summer Edition

[CapitalsCupReality]

5 points in 18 AHL games Matt Rempe? Six minutes per NHL game Matt Rempe? There's no comparison between the two.

He's awkward white Ryan Reaves. He's John Scott. He's a taller but significantly less effective Zac Rinaldo. Had he the capacity to play smarter and more in control I think he already would have managed it. He's not getting suspended in the AHL so it's not like he's a complete animal. But it's just like he gets to the show and it's all adrenaline-fueled recklessness. It doesn't seem like he's got the capacity to pick his spots. Again, not like he's on the ice much to suggest there's legit substance to his game outside of just running around.

Are they the same player? No, never said that.


And what’s up with the white Reaves comment?! lol…..wtf….

 

[Acallabeth]

Are 2 big trades not enough of a shake up? Zero heart from the Rangers. Wow. It's not like they've shown much of anything this game, but the lack of intensity is just sad. A very easy game for NJ.
'f***ing compete!'

 

[msrulo]

I wouldn't be surprised if the devils won 7-0.

 

[895]

Cya lavi

 

[NoVaCapsFan]

My heart bleeds for Ranger fans … NOT! Ever since they celebrated their 4-0 playoff beat down of our outmanned but gritty squad by trashing our team and fans as “shit rags” they have been at the top of my most hated list. I hope they don’t win another game all year.

That said, I think they have the talent to come back and make the playoffs and win a series or two.

 

[DWGie26]

Back to my original point on Rempke and Wilson. not the same. Like at all.

Wilson drafted in first round 16OA.
Rempke drafted in sixth round 165OA

There was always an offensive expectation for Wilson. Never for Rempke. He should be proud he made it to the NHL.

And we should be proud of Wilson adjusting his game amidst the chaos of some questionable hits (and some really good ones that people just hate because he is a fast, 6’4, 220 lb beast). His goon days are behind him but doesn’t mean he won’t land one when needed.

 

[stephenball]

I think the thing about Rangers fans is that they also have the most unearned superiority complex. A lot of them talk down about the Islanders and the Devils as franchises, yet the Rangers have the same number of cups as the Isles and 1 more than the Devils, while also being around a million years longer. The Caps don’t have a stellar history, but they have the same number of cups since they’ve existed as the Rangers, with the Rangers spotting them like, 34 years before their next one.

 

[Langway]

And what’s up with the white Reaves comment?! lol…..wtf….

Just joking. He's got to be the quickest repeat offender in at least recent history. It's the one thing he couldn't do to avoid being a negative. Now every borderline hit opens up the book being thrown at him. Dangerous ground for his career already. On the one hand there's a definite inexperience angle. 22 regular season games with a handful of minutes isn't much experience on the job. On the other hand at the AHL level at least he managed proper body awareness and decision-making to not go way over the line. The slower pace likely helps and the lack of comparative limelight. But overall it doesn't seem like his approach to being part of a dying breed is very calculated. NYR may have may rushed him a bit but he also seems basically in over his head as to how to operate in that sort of role. Like, he doesn't even honor the code. Total newb and it's hard to believe that level of unrefinement, even in what's admittedly the least refined of roles, ends up equally a significant career. We'll see.

It's never been easier to reach the top of Heavy Mountain these days yet it still requires being a playable, reliable hockey player. That's where right or wrong there was never a question with Wilson. Wilson improved to be sure but he was always an NHL player. With Rempe it's a lot more questionable. From that standpoint a general defense of Tom Wilson The Player was a lot more justified in comparison. With Rempe his defense is inexperience basically and by the book it's immaterial. NYR should think about employing better judgment probably...and that does seem like a theme lately.

 

[Alexander the Gr8]

Rangers are dead before Christmas. RIP Rongos!

 

[DWGie26]

I will be absolutely rooting for the Rangers to beat the Devils tonight. I serve my team first. Need the Devils to lose.

 

[Langway]

Cya lavi

Yeah, I think that's just about unavoidable now. He scratches Kreider today and they go out and get waxed. Their room is broken and I doubt they'll quickly be able to trade their way into fixing it. Even if they change it up it's not going to become a strength again for a bit probably. Drury could stick by his man, tank the season and sell off but surely Dolan isn't going that route? Quenneville's been rumored...Messier as GM?

 

[DWGie26]

Yeah, I think that's just about unavoidable now. He scratches Kreider today and they go out and get waxed. Their room is broken and I doubt they'll quickly be able to trade their way into fixing it. Even if they change it up it's not going to become a strength again for a bit probably. Drury could stick by his man, tank the season and sell off but surely Dolan isn't going that route? Quenneville's been rumored...

I didn’t realize it was an afternoon game. Haha.

5-0 is pretty embarrassing!

Guess I’ll focus on Caps winning tonight.

 

[Alexander the Gr8]

I will be absolutely rooting for the Rangers to beat the Devils tonight. I serve my team first. Need the Devils to lose.

Too late, the Devils already smashed the Rangers 5-0 this afternoon.

 

[stephenball]

Doesn’t Jack Hughes just like, always torch the Rangers?

 

[Langway]

 

[DWGie26]

Man, that sucks. Don’t like it!

 

[Langway]

Tkachuk has returned to the game.

 

[PlushMinus]

Haha Sabres beat the Isles 7-1

They had lost 13 in a row and then along come the bumbling, shambolic Islanders.

There are some truly horrendous teams in the Metro and you just have to love it.

For the first time I am truly starting to believe the league has over-expanded. I think you could easily shut down 4 teams and distribute those players among the remaining 28.

 

[CapitalsCupReality]

Haha Sabres beat the Isles 7-1

They had lost 13 in a row and then along come the bumbling, shambolic Islanders.

There are some truly horrendous teams in the Metro and you just have to love it.

For the first time I am truly starting to believe the league has over-expanded. I think you could easily shut down 4 teams and distribute those players among the remaining 28.

….except for all those lost jobs and revenue.

Parity….

Embrace it and the suck that sometimes goes along with it.

 

[Langway]

 

[trick9]

Keep recycling.

Incredible that Yzerman got another pick.

 

[CapitalsCupReality]

I blame recycled head coaches more on the guys coming up, not being seen as fit to be HC’s (yet). Win more, interview better.

 

[AlexModvechkin8]

I blame recycled head coaches more on the guys coming up, not being seen as fit to be HC’s (yet). Win more, interview better.

Yeah… no. It’s because nobody got fired for hiring IBM but they did get fired for hiring the unknown startup. Even if IBM f***ed the job up they could say they did their diligence and went with the safest pick with the longest track record.

You mean to tell me you actually think that somehow there’s a 20-year gap where coaches in their 20s, 30s, and early 40s who played and coached the game in the modern era are less knowledgeable about the sport than guys who played in the 70s and 80s and all interview poorer than the old retreads?

I know you like taking the contrarian view on things but sometimes it’s really just Occam’s Razor. The most likely scenario is the old GMs continue to hire names they’re familiar with and think somehow it’ll work out better for them.

NHL GMs hiring new coaches is essentially just this scene on repeat.

 

[CapitalsCupReality]

Yeah… no. It’s because nobody got fired for hiring IBM but they did get fired for hiring the unknown startup. Even if IBM f***ed the job up they could say they did their diligence and went with the safest pick with the longest track record.

You mean to tell me you actually think that somehow there’s a 20-year gap where coaches in their 20s, 30s, and early 40s who played and coached the game in the modern era are less knowledgeable about the sport than guys who played in the 70s and 80s and all interview poorer than the old retreads?

I know you like taking the contrarian view on things but sometimes it’s really just Occam’s Razor. The most likely scenario is the old GMs continue to hire names they’re familiar with and think somehow it’ll work out better for them.

NHL GMs hiring new coaches is essentially just this scene on repeat.

Yeah that’s lazy reasoning IMO…but hey….I’m open to proof or reading that’s how the interview/selection process works. Maybe you have another video clip?

And just being knowledgeable about a sport, playing a sport at a high level doesn’t qualify you to lead a team as a successful HC….ask #99.

Is there some impressive list of elite younger coaches you care share (who are getting passed over by guys like Todd Mclelland and his career record .581 in the regular season)? I saw a handful of attractive candidates AT MOST discussed in the press when we were about to hire Carbs.

Maybe you can point to the extensive list of Stanley Cup winners coached by young/new HC’s? I stopped at 2006 when I quickly checked…..nothing but retreads and old hats winning those darn Cups.

 

[marcel snapshot]

Yeah… no. It’s because nobody got fired for hiring IBM but they did get fired for hiring the unknown startup. Even if IBM f***ed the job up they could say they did their diligence and went with the safest pick with the longest track record.

Agree with this - it kinda smacks of fear a bit: "Nobody can blame if it doesn't go well cuz I hired the most experienced and biggest name out there" that isn't still tainted w/scandal (looking at Q here). Nothing against McClellan, who's had some success in his coaching career, but never got past the 3rd round. But how do you look at what Carbs is doing with the Caps and just decide, nah, the way to go is to hire another Boomer-adjacent retread.

Three of the best coaching hires in the last decade were Jon Cooper, Kris Knoblauch, and Carbs who were 45, 45, and 42 respectively and had no NHL head coaching experience when hired.

It's not the only way to success, obviously, and not all retreads are dyed-in-the-wool revanchists insisting that the spoiled kids internalize old-time hockey. Yzerman has some young guys with promise (Seider, Raymond, DeBrincat) that he's surrounded with acquisitions of guys like of Patrick Kane and Tarasenko, and maybe the team would be better served by a younger coach who has got a knack for developing and communicating with younger players.

Who knows - maybe he thinks he just did that with Lalonde (50 years old when hired, former assistant to Cooper), and needs somebody to force his guys into becoming 2-way players the way Scotty Bowman did to him.