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Sure… not impossible. But trading one of those guys isn’t going to fix things. firing the coach may be a better option. And for a GM trying to cover his ass, that is the path more likely.

Trading one key guy could completely alter that room.

I know you all have a boner to see Lavi fired…it’s hilarious. It must have been maddening for some to see their young guys blossom and do well under him last year lol…;)
 

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Trading one key guy could completely alter that room.

I know you all have a boner to see Lavi fired…it’s hilarious. It must have been maddening for some to see their young guys blossom and do well under him last year lol…;)
I’m not really one of them. I was a Lavi supporter when he was here basically until the end where i agreed he should go at contracts end. But i thought they should have kept him another year while Carbery got a second year behind the bench in Toronto.

but i do hate the rags and revel in their fall. F them!
 
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If Ottawa craters and doesn't make the playoffs, what would people be willing to part with to acquire Tkachuk, if you have interest in acquiring him. The cost would be steep, but he's pretty much a unicorn. His contract has a no movement clause that kicks in next year, so I assume if they have another shitty year, they would try to move him prior to that, if they move him at all. I tend to think they would move some core adjacent pieces, but he may get frustrated and push the issue.
 

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B Tkachuk is a guy I’d sell a lot for. Like, a lot.

It'd basically come down to whether you move Leonard for him or not.

I wouldn't even though BT is a star player. At this point i'm too invested in Leonard and him being cost-controlled asset long-term plays a big role for me as even though BT is signed until 2028, i don't love the idea of handing another power-forward an 8-year contract right before he turns 29.
 

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Trading one key guy could completely alter that room.

I know you all have a boner to see Lavi fired…it’s hilarious. It must have been maddening for some to see their young guys blossom and do well under him last year lol…;)
Laviolette went off the rails here in November of his second year. Seems like a pattern.

NY is in a free fall, it’s not surprising, and entirely predictable. He won’t make it to Christmas.
 
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It'd basically come down to whether you move Leonard for him or not.

I wouldn't even though BT is a star player. At this point i'm too invested in Leonard and him being cost-controlled asset long-term plays a big role for me as even though BT is signed until 2028, i don't love the idea of handing another power-forward an 8-year contract right before he turns 29.
We could offer Protas/McMichael + Lappy/Miro + Fever/Sandin. Strome?

Don’t analyze my offer too much, just listing our valuable pieces.

I don’t know what Ottawa would want exactly. But the Caps have a lot of young already NHL ready players. They may be prefer to compete now as opposed to collecting more prospects.
 

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I can't see the Rangers changing to a more defensively-oriented system, because I don't think they have the roster to play that. Not sure Lavy can coach it either - his approach with a slow Caps roster was to have a less skilled D corps than the one we've got now do a lot of pinching, with the result being a lot of odd man breaks the other way. And we didn't have a Shesterkin to cover that up. I see a similar dynamic with the Rangers - lots off odd man breaks against them, and just no resistance to the opponent going through neutral at all
 

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If Ottawa craters and doesn't make the playoffs, what would people be willing to part with to acquire Tkachuk, if you have interest in acquiring him. The cost would be steep, but he's pretty much a unicorn. His contract has a no movement clause that kicks in next year, so I assume if they have another shitty year, they would try to move him prior to that, if they move him at all. I tend to think they would move some core adjacent pieces, but he may get frustrated and push the issue.
If they move him I assume it would be in a "change the core" type deal and not a "rebuild with futures" type deal. Don't think the Caps have the piece to go back for him unless you're willing to part with probably Wilson or McMichael. Just don't see the fit unfortunately
 

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Regarding Brady Tkachuk, my guess is that somebody would out bid the Caps. The Caps have power fowards on their team and in their system, so it's not as much of a need as it is for other teams.
That seems likely. We'd have to hope they love one of our guys for some reason.

He's definitely worth inquiring about.
 

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If they move him I assume it would be in a "change the core" type deal and not a "rebuild with futures" type deal. Don't think the Caps have the piece to go back for him unless you're willing to part with probably Wilson or McMichael. Just don't see the fit unfortunately
The fit is the easy part. Unlike Wilson, Tkachuk is a top-line player and is a lefty. They play the same style, but in different spots.

I am very willing to part with McMichael for Tkachuk. Wilson has a NTC.

Obviously it's all a long shot.
 
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The fit is the easy part. Unlike Wilson, Tkachuk is a top-line player and is a lefty. They play the same style, but in different spots.

I am very willing to part with McMichael for Tkachuk. Wilson has a NTC.

Obviously it's all a long shot.
Exactly. Look, I really like what CMM has become. It’s awesome. But if they want him as the center piece to getting Brady Tkachuk????

Come on, now. Let’s think that thru. I’d be all over that (and it’ll be more than just CMM, obv).
 
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I'd pretty easily trade CMM + B Prospect + a 2nd for Tkachuk. He's a 6'4, basically PPG, true power forward. Anyone not going all out for him would be crazy.
 
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Exactly. Look, I really like what CMM has become. It’s awesome. But if they want him as the center piece to getting Brady Tkachuk????

Come on, now. Let’s think that thru. I’d be all over that (and it’ll be more than just CMM, obv).
Yea I should've specified I don't see the fit for OTT. I'd pretty easily move McM for Tkachuk lol
 
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So the Caps would be trading their most punchable face for the league's most epically punchable face... neat trade and a huge upgrade in hate-ability for the team!
Since the grass is always greener, over there... I say they should definitely tear down everything they've worked towards for the last few years, and the amazing success they are currently having, and risk pissing it all away for a shiny new toy!
I mean it worked with Jagr right!?!?
/s
 

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So the Caps would be trading their most punchable face for the league's most epically punchable face... neat trade and a huge upgrade in hate-ability for the team!
Since the grass is always greener, over there... I say they should definitely tear down everything they've worked towards for the last few years, and the amazing success they are currently having, and risk pissing it all away for a shiny new toy!
I mean it worked with Jagr right!?!?
/s

It’s laughable to invoke the name of that POS in comparison.
 

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It’s laughable to invoke the name of that POS in comparison.
Sorry I insulted your man crush... ;)
Maybe instead of gutting the team in the middle of an incredibly successfull season by trading away a bunch of homegrown players who are finally coming into their own, and what will probably also require a shitload of high draft pics as well to land this power forward who has taken Ottawa to such greatness, we could just push to fire the coach instead?
Obviously, the Caps need a shake up right now, because the re-tool is going so horribly... so let's burn this puppy down right!
😄
/s
 
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CapitalsCupReality

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Sorry I insulted your man crush... ;)
Maybe instead of gutting the team in the middle of an incredibly successfull season by trading away a bunch of homegrown players who are finally coming into their own, and what will probably also require a shitload of high draft pics as well to land this power forward who has taken Ottawa to such greatness, we could just push to fire the coach instead?
Obviously, the Caps need a shake up right now, because the re-tool is going so horribly... so let's burn this puppy down right!
😄
/s
It’s a silly comparison and you know it….I trust the guys in charge. If they’re looking to improve the roster immediately, I’m on board.

Cups aren’t won in Oct-Dec….

Someone brought up a hypothetical and you went on a rant about burning things down….lol…..
 
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Yea I should've specified I don't see the fit for OTT. I'd pretty easily move McM for Tkachuk lol
It would have to be an “I want OUT!!!” moment from Tkachuk. That’s the only reason to deal a guy making 8.125m for the next 3 seasons after this.

Trust me — I am not thinking it’s even a thing. BUT, if it was, i wouldn’t hold back CMM as a reason not to do it.

So I am clear
 

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