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At some points yes. He does not make sense now. He is 31 now and under contract at $8M per through 2030. Let someone else overpay for him.

Boeser would be a much better option at 27 and UFA at season end, but at 6.6M Mangiapane would need to be part of the package along with some good prospects or draft picks. And i don’t think we would do that unless we knew we could resign him. But then what… that puts the squeeze on Leonard and other youth. Probably would mean not resigning Raddysh and playing Leonard on 4th line. Not sure the juice is worth the squeeze but it would be an all in move.
Yea I like Boeser a lot, and I would honestly take him as a pure rental -- his extension really scares me.

They absolutely do not need to part with Mangiapane to make the deal work though. Vancouver would retain down to $3.3M and I'm sure any trade partner would be taking back Bear as well which clears another ~$1M. Caps already have $3.6M in LTIR pool space left according to PuckPedia

Boeser for Bear + Iorio + 2nd?
 
Yea I like Boeser a lot, and I would honestly take him as a pure rental -- his extension really scares me.

They absolutely do not need to part with Mangiapane to make the deal work though. Vancouver would retain down to $3.3M and I'm sure any trade partner would be taking back Bear as well which clears another ~$1M. Caps already have $3.6M in LTIR pool space left according to PuckPedia

Boeser for Bear + Iorio + 2nd?
There’s just no way that gets it done. Have to throw in a first or a recent first . Bear has negative value, he’s not an asset.

I’d do Boeser for miro, lapierre, 2nd and bear
 
There’s just no way that gets it done. Have to throw in a first or a recent first . Bear has negative value, he’s not an asset.

I’d do Boeser for miro, lapierre, 2nd and bear
Bear doesn't have negative value at the TDL. Teams take back "bad" money on expiring contracts to get deals done all the time. Caps did it with Craig Smith in the Orlov trade.

As for the real price, every single rental ever gets around a 1st + another small asset. Vancouver has been rumored to be looking for NHL-ready young defenseman which is what would make Iorio appealing. I would not give up Miro for a rental, let alone him and Lapierre.
 
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There’s just no way that gets it done. Have to throw in a first or a recent first . Bear has negative value, he’s not an asset.

I’d do Boeser for miro, lapierre, 2nd and bear
You guys are overpaying for a few months of hockey.

If we give up all that we better be resigning him.
 
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Can't read it, what are they saying about the Caps?

And I'm game for Miller if Coach Boudreau says he's okay. He's a game-breaker we could use.

Caps not mentioned.

Some interesting parts:

“When the club is winning, Miller’s swagger, passionate energy and off-ice lightheartedness (he’s a huge chirper) can take a team to the next level. He makes the good vibes even better and can be a fun, popular teammate.

When the club is losing, Miller can become frustrated, charged up and on edge. He’s blunt and unafraid to speak his mind, which has ruffled feathers in Vancouver.

Miller’s not a “bad guy” — Vancouver’s former head coaches loved having him as a player and leader — but his emotions amplify the feeling of whatever a team is going through at a given moment, whether it’s positive or negative.

Our best guess of Miller’s trade value right now might be somewhere in the neighborhood of a first-round pick, a middle-of-the-lineup NHL forward or defenseman on a significant salary (to make the cap math work) and a young player/prospect.”


They also point out his contract is a risk at his age, and his play is down.
 
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Caps not mentioned.

Some interesting parts:

“When the club is winning, Miller’s swagger, passionate energy and off-ice lightheartedness (he’s a huge chirper) can take a team to the next level. He makes the good vibes even better and can be a fun, popular teammate.

When the club is losing, Miller can become frustrated, charged up and on edge. He’s blunt and unafraid to speak his mind, which has ruffled feathers in Vancouver.

Miller’s not a “bad guy” — Vancouver’s former head coaches loved having him as a player and leader — but his emotions amplify the feeling of whatever a team is going through at a given moment, whether it’s positive or negative.

Our best guess of Miller’s trade value right now might be somewhere in the neighborhood of a first-round pick, a middle-of-the-lineup NHL forward or defenseman on a significant salary (to make the cap math work) and a young player/prospect.”


They also point out his contract is a risk at his age, and his play is down.
Good read, thanks.

I think Miller at 8 million is great value. I wouldn't be worried about that at all.
 
Good read, thanks.

I think Miller at 8 million is great value. I wouldn't be worried about that at all.
I don't know that the Caps need to add another C when there are areas of greater need, BUT, I do think that Miller would benefit from not being part of the core leadership group. We have a great room and our leaders could manage him, I think.
 
I don't know that the Caps need to add another C when there are areas of greater need, BUT, I do think that Miller would benefit from not being part of the core leadership group. We have a great room and our leaders could manage him, I think.
I'm thinking he would be a LW for us. I believe he's spent a lot of time at LW in Vancouver.
 
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