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twabby said:
There's nothing that will prevent mid-tier players from getting paid as well as the higher-end players. The Barclay Goodrows and Tom Wilsons of the world will still get their money even if the Connors McDavid and Bedard get theirs earlier as well.

I think you're reaching a bit here.
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and I think you have an idealistic (and unrealistic) concept of the way this will really work. You haven't thought it through all the way and considered various perspectives.
 
twabby said:
Imagine being a plumber fresh out of plumbing school with a 4.0 GPA. In all of your previous service calls as an apprentice you quickly handled all of the literal shit thrown at you with care and ease. The professors at the plumbing school comment how you could go on to be the greatest plumber ever. Better than Mario Mario, better than even the famous Thomas Crapper.

Now imagine that instead of going on to live your lifelong dream of working for Royal Flush, the best plumbing company in the world located in New York City, you are instead forced to work for Judd & Sons in Winnipeg. Not only are you forced to work for a company you don't like, in a city you've never heard of, surrounded by people you can barely understand (Canadians), you also get paid 10% of what you'd make with Royal Flush for the pleasure of doing so! All so Judd and his disgusting sons Buck and Battleship can continue to rake in record profits as they begin to charge more to the poor prairie folk who need their toilets unclogged because of their unhealthy intake of moose burgers and Tim Horton's.

Doesn't seem very fair to me!
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Funny stuff. All of that and we haven't even touched the subject of severe detrimental impact the draft has on grassroots of the game.

It's a wonderful system for your average hard-working NHL team owner Joe. Somebody else pays all the development costs, you get to own the rights to best players in the world. You don't even have to pay them anywhere near market value! Praise be to Zorp. I mean owner Joe does ponny up upwards of thousands of dollars to junior teams for doing all that tedious development work. Only, of course, for the players they draft. F**k the rest of them. Sure, their parents spend years forking out $20k+ annually for little Timmy to play hockey, whether Timmy gets drafted or not. Owner Joe didn't force them to do it.

Mind you, players can choose not to play in the NHL. They can simply avoid the US/Canada wide legalized monopoly where the same people own media outlets, NHL teams and tax payer subsidized arenas. How hard can that be?
 
In the euro soccer leagues, a team that develops a player then gets a percentage of every transfer fee paid for that player in the future. It is the reason Malmö FF are fairly dominant in the swedish league (Zlatan money keeps pouring in) and it rewards team with good development. It is something north american sports could learn from.

The draft and FA rules and no relegation are clearly designed to minimize risk for club owners which allows them to create the highest paying and thus best hockey league in the world. It's probably good for the fans but personally i find the lack of relegation minimizes drama for non-playoff teams and combined with the draft incentivizes non-playoff teams to finish last instead of trying hard every game. It's pretty weird compared to all other sports everywhere but it serves a purpose i suppose.
 
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This has been an interesting debate to read through. i’ve always been intrigued how the euro soccer league works.

They start sports academies and start recruiting kids at a very young age. Let’s say middle school, and start training them and developing them for their programs.

I have very mixed feelings about recruiting kids this young, but let’s be real. It’s going on in colleges everywhere here especially now with NIL.
 
Ovechkins Wodka said:
This has been an interesting debate to read through. i’ve always been intrigued how the euro soccer league works.

They start sports academies and start recruiting kids at a very young age. Let’s say middle school, and start training them and developing them for their programs.

I have very mixed feelings about recruiting kids this young, but let’s be real. It’s going on in colleges everywhere here especially now with NIL.
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My curiousity is peaked, so an honest and open-minded question: What makes you skeptical about recruiting young kids for soccer academies?
 
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My curiousity is peaked, so an honest and open-minded question: What makes you skeptical about recruiting young kids for soccer academies?
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I would say something about giving a 14-year-old a contract that making them a professional athlete.

but guys, like LeBron, Bryce Harper Messi, and probably the most recently Wemby and Connor Bedard all were on the radar by that age and basically in professional Academy training
 
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I bet I could design a system which let's young players select their destination (with some limits) and maintains competitive balance (with some limits). The salary cap and salary slots would be key components.

Keeping in mind, even for our plumber example, people don't all get to work for their chosen employers or even in their chosen city. I'm at the very top of my profession right now, but if I got fired or laid off, I'd likely have to move to find similar work at similar pay. The most prime destinations are not available to every potential candidate. If Edmonton wants to attract talent, say vs LA or Miami, they would to offer something enticing, be it money, term, playing time, a chance to win now, or a better coaching staff.

When I get a minute, I'll draw up an attempt to make a new system which maintains competition, prevents money from being the only factor in building a dynasty, but still let's talent choose their destination, to some extent.
 
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We let Kids become professional actors so Im not sure why we draw the line at sports. Those Stranger Things Kids already made more then 99% of actors before they turned 18.

Im on a rant now. NBA age is 1 year removed from HS, NFL is 3 years removed from high school. MLB and NHL is age 18. The Draft age to help sell a college sports TV show has been awful for decades.
 
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Ovechkins Wodka said:
We let Kids become professional actors so Im not sure why we draw the line at sports. Those Stranger Things Kids already made more then 99% of actors before they turned 18.

Im on a rant now. NBA age is 1 year removed from HS, NFL is 3 years removed from high school. MLB and NHL is age 18. The Draft age to help sell a college sports TV show has been awful for decades.
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The difference is there is much higher chance a lot of kids nationwide might focus entirely on sports and eschew academics thinking they have a real shot at being a pro athlete when a tiny % ever make it big. Child actors are not nearly as common or widespread and there are probably child labor laws in place, as well as tutors on the set, etc.
 
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Red Wings and Canadiens win because why not?

10 teams within 9 points around the wild-card race. 7 teams within 4 points.
 
twabby said:
Have you ever been to Edmonton???
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Sure, Edmonton may not be for everyone. But you don’t have to be in Edmonton for more than the allotted time (until UFA). Then pick wherever you want to go.

It’s not different than many “nationally driven” companies. Field offices are everywhere and people routinely need to start at places that aren’t their top choices. LOTS and LOTS of jobs fit that description.

If you don’t want to play in a certain area, but join another league, or you sit out and don’t get paid, possibly forcing the issue.

I think people that are supportive of the draft (like I am), ought to also be supportive of a guy like Gauthier wanting to play elsewhere.

No one is getting truly bent over, either way. That’s just one man’s free opinion!
 
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YippieKaey said:
My curiousity is peaked, so an honest and open-minded question: What makes you skeptical about recruiting young kids for soccer academies?
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I wont claim to know a lot about it. I may be wrong, but my view is that it becomes a numbers game for the academies. Sell their program to a lot of kids and hope a few make it big. What happens to majority of kids that don’t make it anywhere? Did they get a quality upbringing there? Well educated and set up for success? Honest question, cause I don’t know.
 
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