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League News: NHL Talk - (News n' Scores n' Stuff) - 2022-23 season, Vol. 4, Off-season Edition

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Brian23 said:
I don't understand how the NHL has a player the level of McDavid and he isn't on every sports platform he can be. This league is just so awful at building up narratives or enabling personalities. Just held back by ineptitude at the top.
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He's in Edmonton. There are probably only a few thousand Americans who could find Edmonton on a map. Even Gretzky once had to move out of Edmonton to LA to make his star shine brighter.

Its also not entirely clear that McDavid wants his profile to be any bigger. Maybe he doesn't accept a lot of endorsement opportunities that would put him in front of more eyes?

I mean, its also agree that the NHL sucks ass at marketing in general, no argument there.
 
CapitalsCupReality said:
If he played in NY or Boston or Pittsburgh, it would be different….he also looks like anyone else from the Canadian Clone Hockey Army and on the surface, doesn’t appear to have a whole lot of personality to market.
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He's crazy talented and immensely boring. I once noted on here that he seems passionless and was roundly flamed, but it's this. He's so very bland...
 
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If he played in NY or Boston or Pittsburgh, it would be different….he also looks like anyone else from the Canadian Clone Hockey Army and on the surface, doesn’t appear to have a whole lot of personality to market.
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I'd add LAK another market that if he had ended up there would get much more attention.
 
Provorov accidentally became the most influential player in the NHL loool


I think it honestly didn't occur to many players they could refuse before. It's not some deep seated beliefs they held. They probably just think being gay is icky but didn't care too much about it before until someone opened Provorov's box.
 
895 said:
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I think it honestly didn't occur to many players they could refuse before. It's not some deep seated beliefs they held. They probably just think being gay is icky but didn't care too much about it before until someone opened Provorov's box.
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Only the NHL could f*** the football this badly on something that was supposed to be an innocent and welcoming gesture. This is literally the lowest hanging fruit on the tree of initiatives they could undertake to show that hockey isn’t just for straight, rich, white kids and they’ve turned it into an embarrassing spectacle. We even have one organization saying it’s protection for their Russian born players because there’s a no-gay propaganda law in Russia. It would be hilarious if it wasn’t so pathetic. And I’m not even going to touch on the hypocrisy shown by the players claiming to abstain in the name of religion because it’s an indefensible position that’s blown to bits with even the slightest bit of effort and we’ve also already moved on from that discussion.

No other league continues to bungle PR at every available opportunity and tells their fans to get f***ed quite like the NHL. Its really something to behold and they should be applauded for being as bad at their jobs as they are since it’s really tough to pull it off.
 
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AlexBrovechkin8 said:
Only the NHL could f*** the football this badly on something that was supposed to be an innocent and welcoming gesture. This is literally the lowest hanging fruit on the tree of initiatives they could undertake to show that hockey isn’t just for straight, rich, white kids and they’ve turned it into an embarrassing spectacle. We even have one organization saying it’s protection for their Russian born players because there’s a no-gay propaganda law in Russia. It would be hilarious if it wasn’t so pathetic. And I’m not even going to touch on the hypocrisy shown by the players claiming to abstain in the name of religion because it’s an indefensible position that’s blown to bits with even the slightest bit of effort and we’ve also already moved on from that discussion.

No other league continues to bungle PR at every available opportunity and tells their fans to get f***ed quite like the NHL. Its really something to behold and they should be applauded for being as bad at their jobs as they are since it’s really tough to pull it off.
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All of this.

It's basically the NHL allowing players to be intolerant of LGBT+ during what's supposed to be an exercise to combat EXACTLY THAT.

Nothing says "we don't really mean it" like sanctioning bigotry during a pride night.

The fact that people STILL believe it's just a "lifestyle" or "moral choice" like some hobby instead of how someone just IS...THAT shows the need for this kind of effort, and no "but my religion" excuse is going to cut it. Lots of oppression wears that veil.
 
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If money were no object, I would 100% buy NHL helmet or jersey ad space to promote HRC, or better yet Act Up. Paid promotion. Then see how the league handles any dissenters. The whole thing is a disgrace from top to bottom. And if the LGBTQ community decides to kick up a fuss/start a boycott/etc, they've shown themselves to be a formidable foe. NHL has it coming IMO.
 
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I bet this wouldn’t go over well in any league (NBA, MLB, NFL)…..if they really tried to make the players participate. I’m sure for some religion will be a convenient excuse…but not sure how you navigate those freedoms.
 
Calicaps said:
If money were no object, I would 100% buy NHL helmet or jersey ad space to promote HRC, or better yet Act Up. Paid promotion. Then see how the league handles any dissenters. The whole thing is a disgrace from top to bottom. And if the LGBTQ community decides to kick up a fuss/start a boycott/etc, they've shown themselves to be a formidable foe. NHL has it coming IMO.
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How are we not hearing from them already? They simply wouldn’t allow any uniform ads that would be in doubt.
 
CapitalsCupReality said:
How are we not hearing from them already? They simply wouldn’t allow any uniform ads that would be in doubt.
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Well, the Pride group in NYC put out a statement when the Rags chickened out, but they have a long-standing relationship with the team so maybe they don't want to go full hostile right away.

As for the ads, money talks. If Tim Cook decided to pay them some preposterous amount for a small HRC patch on the sweater, would they really turn him down? But either way, it ain't happening so...
 
Calicaps said:
Well, the Pride group in NYC put out a statement when the Rags chickened out, but they have a long-standing relationship with the team so maybe they don't want to go full hostile right away.

As for the ads, money talks. If Tim Cook decided to pay them some preposterous amount for a small HRC patch on the sweater, would they really turn him down? But either way, it ain't happening so...
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I think you would see a battle the NHL doesn’t want to get into….something that pits the players against popular opinion/causes. I think the NHL would politely decline the offer.

Soccer already outlawed something similar at the WC when some teams wanted to show support.

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Explaining FIFA's OneLove armband U-turn at the World Cup

Another high-profile FIFA U-turn has overshadowed the action at the World Cup. Why were captains like Harry Kane forced to wear a different armband?
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They‘re (the NHL) already punting to the players by leaving it at the team level.
 
CapitalsCupReality said:
I think you would see a battle the NHL doesn’t want to get into….something that pits the players against popular opinion/causes. I think the NHL would politely decline the offer.

Soccer already outlawed something similar at the WC when some teams wanted to show support.

www.espn.com

Explaining FIFA's OneLove armband U-turn at the World Cup

Another high-profile FIFA U-turn has overshadowed the action at the World Cup. Why were captains like Harry Kane forced to wear a different armband?
www.espn.com www.espn.com

They‘re (the NHL) already punting to the players by leaving it at the team level.
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Well the WC thing was about protesting the host country which is a bit different, but I take your point.

Main takeaway: the NHL brass are total cowards.
 
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