You've been banging this drum since the off-season began (heck, since the trade deadline). What deal do you see happening? Where do you see the team freeing up cap space? Who's the trade partner?
Who gets traded for what and with whom is not my department. Our GM has consistently said he's trying to shake up the top 6, and I believe him. But my main point was that you give the f***ing Pens and their brand new management team the benefit of the doubt even though they couldn't get a deal done until now. But you won't give our our management team which has proven time and again to be men of their word (whatever you think of the individual moves) the same runway.
What have you done for me lately -applies nicely here.
I didn’t give the Pens any benefit of the doubt. I judged the Pens roster by what had already accomplished. The Karlsson trade has actually happened, in reality, not just in the heads of optimists hanging on interview snippets.
Ok, you’re on record big dog. You don’t think anything will happen.
Yes - lots of dissonance counterposing the melodiousness
I think the Pens have a bit more star power then the Caps as they have more than one old guy still playing well, but the Caps are a deeper team with a little more youth available.
I see it pretty much the same way
The Penguins missed the playoffs by a point last year. Karlsson is one of the 10 best players in the last 15 years, and still at the top of his game.
Since you're apparently monitoring my posts, I'd think you'd have realized that I never speculate about prospective trade details. I don't spend the time to know enough about cap hits and so on. But ok, you know better what I believe than I do.
Monitoring your posts? That's rich.
I agree with all of this.
Monitoring your posts? That's rich.
I had associated this stance with you because you went so far as to specifically quote me in a post where you took the stance of "there's still time for roster moves" back at the trade deadline. So I noticed that post, and I noticed it again when you repeated that logic in the post I quoted from this thread.
If you don't have the time to visit CapFriendly, maybe listen to others that do when they say it's unlikely the Caps make a significant move? Or at least don't straight up object to the concept?
I used the "significant" caveat because I didn't want some poster running up to quote me after the Capitals sign Max Comtois or Adam Erne or some other NHL/AHL tweener to a PTO with a "see see, I told you they weren't done!"
If they do something with the cap space they would get from trading Mantha (or they offload him for a real gain, rather than being forced to pay to eliminate his contract), that would indeed be significant. But who do you think is a mystery buyer for Mantha that is left? Who suddenly is willing to eat that contract that wasn't willing to at the NHL draft? Who is even left to spend that cap space on? Patrick Kane or Jonathan Toews? The best opportunities for them to get rid of Mantha before the season starts have passed, and most of the best things players to use the cap space he would free up are now signed. Most likely scenario now is trading Mantha in the lead-up to the trade deadline, especially if Carbery can make him look like a useful asset.
I don't particularly care if GMBM is "trying" or not. General Managers aren't paid for trying. They're paid for executing a plan, and right now it seems like the Capitals plan is all about 894. They are neither swinging for another Championship now (which is a very tall ask indeed) nor are they building a bridge into the post-Ovechkin years.
... aside from this being a dogshit take, what moves are you pointing to that makes this clear? Which moves or lack of moves are you pointing to that suggest the Capitals want Ovechkin to keep scoring goals but not win anymore?Monitoring your posts? That's rich.
I had associated this stance with you because you went so far as to specifically quote me in a post where you took the stance of "there's still time for roster moves" back at the trade deadline. So I noticed that post, and I noticed it again when you repeated that logic in the post I quoted from this thread.
If you don't have the time to visit CapFriendly, maybe listen to others that do when they say it's unlikely the Caps make a significant move? Or at least don't straight up object to the concept?
I used the "significant" caveat because I didn't want some poster running up to quote me after the Capitals sign Max Comtois or Adam Erne or some other NHL/AHL tweener to a PTO with a "see see, I told you they weren't done!"
If they do something with the cap space they would get from trading Mantha (or they offload him for a real gain, rather than being forced to pay to eliminate his contract), that would indeed be significant. But who do you think is a mystery buyer for Mantha that is left? Who suddenly is willing to eat that contract that wasn't willing to at the NHL draft? Who is even left to spend that cap space on? Patrick Kane or Jonathan Toews? The best opportunities for them to get rid of Mantha before the season starts have passed, and most of the best things players to use the cap space he would free up are now signed. Most likely scenario now is trading Mantha in the lead-up to the trade deadline, especially if Carbery can make him look like a useful asset.
I don't particularly care if GMBM is "trying" or not. General Managers aren't paid for trying. They're paid for executing a plan, and right now it seems like the Capitals plan is all about 894. They are neither swinging for another Championship now (which is a very tall ask indeed) nor are they building a bridge into the post-Ovechkin years.
See, and I'm way more interested in the next 5 years of Caps hockey than I would be if I were a Pittsburgh fan right now, knowing how truly grim it looks just around the corner.
