League News: NHL Talk - (News n' Scores n' Stuff) - 2022-23 season, Vol. 4, Off-season Edition

[Ridley Simon]

I’m signing with Aflac. With a side deal with AARP.

 

[CapitalsCupReality]

Again, see my last comment for why it makes sense for Zucker to take a big one year deal and bet on himself. This being the (expected) last year of the flat cap make this year uniquely perfect for this kind of situation, since teams have basically been pushed to the breaking point by 5 years of the flat cap while next year it's projected to go up by 4M. Any player who's not on their last legs has to be seriously wondering how much more they'd get on a long term deal in that environment, and whether they're willing to gamble on a one year deal to set themselves up for a bigger one in the future. There's plenty of Zucker-caliber wingers on the market this summer, and it just takes one of them to feel like rolling the dice.

Whatever the value of Perry and Foligno is, it's unquestionably lower when they have a 4M cap hit than a 2M cap hit. That's just a self-inflicted wound that's gonna restrict which teams can even consider adding them. There's gonna be a lot of team so close to the cap that they'll need more than 50% retention to be able to add them.

If I’m Zucker, I take the long term security at 31….32 in January…

 

[Kalopsia]

If I’m Zucker, I take the long term security at 31….32 in January…

Zucker wouldn't sign a 1x7 contract. So you lose some value as a team trying to bring him in because you'll have to fit whatever isn't retained into your future plans. They can always find a 3rd party thats willing to eat 50% for assets if they want to trade both with retention it happened just this past season I'm pretty sure.

I'll take my wins where I can get 'em, even if they're just tangential hypotheticals to a discussion about something else entirely!

 

[CapitalsCupReality]

I'll take my wins where I can get 'em, even if they're just tangential hypotheticals to a discussion about something else entirely!

I said what I would take if him, I didn’t predict he would be desperate….and long term security would not be an option lol…..

 

[twabby]

You know what they say: strike while the iron is at room temperature.

 

[Kalopsia]

You know what they say: strike while the iron is at room temperature.

God, that's the most NHL way to play this. Of course they didn't stay out of the NFT market because they respected their fans too much to scam them, they stayed out because they're so far behind the times it takes them two years after the boom and a year and a half after the bust to enter the market.

 

[HTFN]

NHL discovering fads that make money too late like

 

[g00n]

OOooo can I get a "Fallout Boy's 5th All Star Game Appearance" NFT?!

As usual hip and edgy, NHL...if you're a 13 year old living on a religious compound

 

[Ovechkins Wodka]

How could the Pens or Canes have the cap space to add Karlsson




The Canes adding Orlov and Karlsson would be almost 20mill on the blue line

 

[Brian23]

Carolina makes sense, supposedly have 3.5 right now and Burns counts as 8, assuming he has to be the one going back to open up a spot too, which gets you to 11.5. Though I'm also seeing 5.25, I can't recall if San Jose retained or not on him, but either way it's not that far off. The big one is assets, no idea what Carolina has on that front.

Penguins really make no sense though. They're currently at -2.3 million, you'd have to think they'd have to unload Granlund, plus one of Rakell or Smith. Maybe swap Guentzal, but I'm still not sure there's any attractiveness in that package. There's no way they move Letang, Graves they just signed, so on defense maybe they try to move Petry? But again, how valuable is a 6.25 million dollar 36 year old?

And that's still ignoring that they have zero assets. Pitt makes no sense unless EK is insisting on them, which also makes no sense.

 

[Kalopsia]

Carolina makes sense, supposedly have 3.5 right now and Burns counts as 8, assuming he has to be the one going back to open up a spot too, which gets you to 11.5. Though I'm also seeing 5.25, I can't recall if San Jose retained or not on him, but either way it's not that far off. The big one is assets, no idea what Carolina has on that front.

Penguins really make no sense though. They're currently at -2.3 million, you'd have to think they'd have to unload Granlund, plus one of Rakell or Smith. Maybe swap Guentzal, but I'm still not sure there's any attractiveness in that package. There's no way they move Letang, Graves they just signed, so on defense maybe they try to move Petry? But again, how valuable is a 6.25 million dollar 36 year old?

And that's still ignoring that they have zero assets. Pitt makes no sense unless EK is insisting on them, which also makes no sense.

They could move Petry (Karlsson replaces him anyway) + Granlund + Carter in the deal, and that's 14.4M. The Pens' system is garbage but they've still got all their future 1st and 2nds, so maybe they start with those three and just keep adding picks until San Jose says yes?

 

[Hivemind]

I have to admit, Carolina re-uniting Erik Karlsson and Brent Burns on the same blueline again would be mildly hilarious.

 

[IafrateOvie34]

Carolina makes sense, supposedly have 3.5 right now and Burns counts as 8, assuming he has to be the one going back to open up a spot too, which gets you to 11.5. Though I'm also seeing 5.25, I can't recall if San Jose retained or not on him, but either way it's not that far off. The big one is assets, no idea what Carolina has on that front.

Penguins really make no sense though. They're currently at -2.3 million, you'd have to think they'd have to unload Granlund, plus one of Rakell or Smith. Maybe swap Guentzal, but I'm still not sure there's any attractiveness in that package. There's no way they move Letang, Graves they just signed, so on defense maybe they try to move Petry? But again, how valuable is a 6.25 million dollar 36 year old?

And that's still ignoring that they have zero assets. Pitt makes no sense unless EK is insisting on them, which also makes no sense.

No offense to Pittsburgh as a city, but I'm wondering how this fits with Karlsson's view of a lavish city unless he's lowered standards from a few years ago.

 

[Hivemind]

No offense to Pittsburgh as a city, but I'm wondering how this fits with Karlsson's view of a lavish city unless he's lowered standards from a few years ago.

Pittsburgh is actually pretty darn nice. It's kinda the exception to the rule when it comes to the Rust Belt. There's actually a fair bit of robotics & tech start-ups in the area, thanks to research partnerships with CMU and University of Pittsburgh. Lots of healthcare jobs as well.

Obviously, it's surrounded by Pennsyltucky tho.

 

[IafrateOvie34]

Pittsburgh is actually pretty darn nice. It's kinda the exception to the rule when it comes to the Rust Belt. There's actually a fair bit of robotics & tech start-ups in the area, thanks to research partnerships with CMU and University of Pittsburgh. Lots of healthcare jobs as well.

Obviously, it's surrounded by Pennsyltucky tho.

I'm just having fun. It's not too far from me.

 

[PlushMinus]

I'm just having fun. It's not too far from me.

what the hell? For some reason I thought you lived on the West coast...?

 

[IafrateOvie34]

what the hell? For some reason I thought you lived on the West coast...?

I did years ago.

 

[RedRocking]

Pittsburgh is actually pretty darn nice. It's kinda the exception to the rule when it comes to the Rust Belt. There's actually a fair bit of robotics & tech start-ups in the area, thanks to research partnerships with CMU and University of Pittsburgh. Lots of healthcare jobs as well.

Obviously, it's surrounded by Pennsyltucky tho.

My Dad is from inner city Pittsburgh, and so I had A LOT of family there growing up. Once my Dad moved to MD he always called it Sh*tsburgh, lol.

But yea, it’s kind of an underrated city - there’s lots of cool spots downtown. The three rivers area, and Mt Washington are good for sight seeing, etc… And as you said, there’s a solid tech sector.

When I was a kid, my dad would get us Caps ticket packages - and he would always include all the Pens games. So I saw prime Lemieux, and Jagr kick our ass regularly at the ol’ Caps Center.

Once the Ovi/Crosby rivalry started, I tried to explain to my dad how much I hated the Pens, and that he had to pick a side, ha. He was unmoved and so was happy when the Pens started winning more Cups in ‘09. And I had to take crap from the other relatives.

So friends, this is my secret shame as a Caps fan - deep familial Pittsburgh ties, and a Pens loving father. I beg your forgiveness, lol.

 

[IafrateOvie34]

My Dad is from inner city Pittsburgh, and so I had A LOT of family there growing up. Once my Dad moved to MD he always called it Sh*tsburgh, lol.

But yea, it’s kind of an underrated city - there’s lots of cool spots downtown. The three rivers area, and Mt Washington are good for sight seeing, etc… And as you said, there’s a solid tech sector.

When I was a kid, my dad would get us Caps ticket packages - and he would always include all the Pens games. So I saw prime Lemieux, and Jagr kick our ass regularly at the ol’ Caps Center.

Once the Ovi/Crosby rivalry started, I tried to explain to my dad how much I hated the Pens, and that he had to pick a side, ha. He was unmoved and so was happy when the Pens started winning more Cups in ‘09. And I had to take crap from the other relatives.

So friends, this is my secret shame as a Caps fan - deep familial Pittsburgh ties, and a Pens loving father. I beg your forgiveness, lol.

You chose wisely lol. When the Caps won the cup I finally got to drive locally in a Pen's dominated area the SC license cover around town, lol. I got a lot of honks of hatred! Surprised my vehicle didn't get keyed from "I love my Caps" bumper stickers over the years.

 

[kicksavedave]

So friends, this is my secret shame as a Caps fan - deep familial Pittsburgh ties, and a Pens loving father. I beg your forgiveness, lol.

You don't get to choose your parents or older family, but I suggest you disown them all promptly. Its pretty much the only correct thing to do at this point.

 

[marcel snapshot]

Am I the only one who thinks that Karlsson piling up points for an abysmal team with a minus 87 goal differential that didn't care much about his defense since they were losing 3 out of every 4 games while playing more than 60 games for the first time since 2017-18 doesn't necessarily translate into success with a playoff or playoff-aspiring team that is going to have a very different set of defensive and durability expectations?

 

[PlushMinus]

Am I the only one who thinks that Karlsson piling up points for an abysmal team with a minus 87 goal differential that didn't care much about his defense since they were losing 3 out of every 4 games while playing more than 60 games for the first time since 2017-18 doesn't necessarily translate into success with a playoff or playoff-aspiring team that is going to have a very different set of defensive and durability expectations?

The guy is the first defenceman to score 100 points in 31 seasons.
He is only the 6th defenceman in the history of the league to score 100 points.

Nobody is signing this guy with the expectation he'll be their best DEFENDER.

I would love to have him on the Caps for entertainment value alone.

 

[CapitalsCupReality]

Am I the only one who thinks that Karlsson piling up points for an abysmal team with a minus 87 goal differential that didn't care much about his defense since they were losing 3 out of every 4 games while playing more than 60 games for the first time since 2017-18 doesn't necessarily translate into success with a playoff or playoff-aspiring team that is going to have a very different set of defensive and durability expectations?

I mean in theory if you surround him by a better team, he’s going to do better…or at least be potentially more valuable in pursuing a Cup.

 

[IafrateOvie34]

The guy is the first defenceman to score 100 points in 31 seasons.
He is only the 6th defenceman in the history of the league to score 100 points.

Nobody is signing this guy with the expectation he'll be their best DEFENDER.

I would love to have him on the Caps for entertainment value alone.

If he can do for Ovy what Housley did for Selanne in 93, I'll be alright!

 

[hb13xchamps]

Had himself a night he wish he could remember