NHL Players Reportedly Bothered By Jacob Trouba Trade Saga With Rangers

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Trouba and his agent negotiated this possibility. If they wanted this to be impossible, they could have negotiated that way. They likely get less money if that is the case.

You can take the money and then complain about the terms that you agreed to, but you really just end up looking like a butthead.

If you didn't know what you were agreeing to, then fire your agent and get a better one.
 
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Oilslick941611

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But how come players don't take accountability for their own play? Play better and the team won't want to get rid of you. It's a two way street. Players have to live up to their contract too.
Again. I can’t believe I’m defending trouba here. However he won an award last year and helped lead the team to a presidents trophy. Or did they win it in spite of him?
 

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I have a feeling the PA will get this loophole closed next CBA.
What loophole? It's pretty simply, there are NTC and NMC...he didn't have a NMC, it's not a loophole, it's black and white how the contracts work. I think it's beyond dumb how Trouba is bothered by this, personally, in my mind he shouldn't have had a NTC even, those are given out way to easily.
 

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Whole thing is moot anyway. Who was taking care of the kid when Trouba was playing games and his wife was working 24-hour shifts during her residency? Plus he can fly back at the Christmas break and Anaheim’s new year’s break. Then he gets two weeks off during the 4-nations tournament and a few days in March. Then he can fly back again mid-April after the season ends. Tough life.
 

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Whole thing is moot anyway. Who was taking care of the kid when Trouba was playing games and his wife was working 24-hour shifts during her residency? Plus he can fly back at the Christmas break and Anaheim’s new year’s break. Then he gets two weeks off during the 4-nations tournament and a few days in March. Then he can fly back again mid-April after the season ends. Tough life.
If he can't get a babysitter with 8 million, maybe he should try exorcist for the little demon instaed.
 

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Wont probably ever happen but I think there should be a limit to how many each teams can offer like 3 spots per team for example. A NTC/NMC should be saved for special players and could entice a free agent to sign with a team who has a NTC/NMC slot available. Also think if a player waives it to get traded they lost that protection afterwards.
 
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If he can't get a babysitter with 8 million, maybe he should try exorcist for the little demon instaed.
Yup, I’m sure they already have a live-in nanny. Always kills me when guys have kids and then if they play poorly it’s because they’re tired from “lack of sleep”. Because yeah, a professional hockey player is waking up at 3am to feed the kid when they have a game the next day.
 

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"you're not good enough for us anymore and we need the money to sign our great goalie. We could send you to the AHL but, if you prefer, we could trade you to a team that wants you even if it's on your no-trade list".

and the problem is...????
 

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I also don't understand Verbeek wanting to do this trade and take on 8 million in salary knowing the Ducks aren't competing or even making the playoffs while he's still on the books.

Several reasons:
1) cap floor ... they're going to be moving Dumoulin and Fowler, that cap hit will need to be replaced

2) He's RHD vs Fowler as a LHD ... right now at least one young Ducks' dman is playing off side whenever Fowler is in. So it's better for development

3) He makes less actual money than Fowler despite a larger cap hit

4) Fowler's best use (PP, PMD, OZ starts) have been taken over by the youngsters. Trouba OTOH, the Ducks don't have a young dman who fills that particular role, Solberg is years away and Warren isn't ready nor is it clear if he ever will be.

5) Even if you move Fowler and Dumoulin, you still need a veteran dman along with Gudas, you can't just send out a bunch of kids every night on the blueline even when you're rebuilding.

He could have blocked it then. :dunno:

Seems that in discussions with his wife, they were open to the possibility of Anaheim. The primary consideration, both during his exit from Winnipeg and his attempts to stay in NY, have been his wife's career. SoCal is a better place than most of the other mentioned locations for a doctor to find good work. In a months her residency is over, he was certainly gone for sure this time ... so you might as well waive the NTC to go somewhere good for her career instead of taking your chances on the waiver wire.

Everyone says, "ah well hockey players get traded, they should know that's a possibility" But when the Rangers got him they knew that one of the reasons was his wife's work ambitions. If you don't want that to be a problem in the future, only acquire players who 1) are single, or 2) have partners who are content to be housewives. They KNEW he wasn't gonna want to leave until his wife's residency was over when they signed him, that was the whole point of the initial NMC.
 
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This whole thing is a nothingburger.

The Ducks weren't on his list. The Rangers had a deal with a team that was on his list and he blocked it.

The clause worked as designed and neither side was in the wrong.

What the Rangers did to Goodrow has more traction as being a loophole.
If the Rangers had a deal with a team that was on his list then how could he have blocked it? By threatening not to report? Not reporting would be a breach of contract. If true then Trouba can f*** off.
 

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Where's the outrage that player is paid $8 million per year to be an $8 million per year player, then decides not to produce what he is demanding to get paid for.... yet still expects payment in full.

If you can't do the job you are paid for then you need to be let go. In this case waived or traded.

And I doubt it was a threat. More like "we have to let you go", "we will waive you" (and they would have, no threat... just a fact - and courtesy to let him know what is going to happen), "or you can choose X team on your no trade list and have somewhat of a decision in the matter".

I don't think anyone should be paid for a job they won't do.

Since there's a contract two decision were made:

-player made a decision to not deliver and live up to his contract.
-team made a decision to let him go.
 
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Who was the Rangers defender about 10-15 years ago who got waived, wasn't picked up because of his big contract and just grinded it out in the AHL for a couple of seasons?
 

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"you're not good enough for us anymore and we need the money to sign our great goalie. We could send you to the AHL but, if you prefer, we could trade you to a team that wants you even if it's on your no-trade list".

and the problem is...????
Zibanejad probably does tbh
 

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Who was the Rangers defender about 10-15 years ago who got waived, wasn't picked up because of his big contract and just grinded it out in the AHL for a couple of seasons?
Redden, and the rule was changed that players over a certain amount still count against the cap after a certain salary.
 
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If the Rangers had a deal with a team that was on his list then how could he have blocked it? By threatening not to report? Not reporting would be a breach of contract. If true then Trouba can f*** off.
They were on his list, as in, his no-trade list.
 

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A player with a NTC was pretty much just forced to be traded to a team that was on his NTC by the sounds of it. A key part of the contracts players negotiate just became practically null and void because of this loop hole. Players are obviously going to be up in arms over this, and it will probably be something players want addressed in a CBA.

174 players in the league have NTC currently, this will be a massive issue amongst the players.
pretty much yup. Drury may have hurt his franchise's ability to sign certain players in the future

Nah. Players will go where the money goes. If the Rangers offer the best deal they will get the player. The players themselves will get over their "feelings."
if Rangers and someone else are offering the same contract they very well might go with the other team after this. NYR is in the wrong for how this was handled

No, just play better. How about that? Then they wouldn't wanna trade you
thats the way things go sometimes, maybe dont sign him for so much and give NTC just to find a loophole and send him exactly where he didnt want to go.
 

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pretty much yup. Drury may have hurt his franchise's ability to sign certain players in the future
and remember this isn't an isolated issue, similiar disrespect happened from Drury to Goodrow as well.

Drury is lucky he is GM of New York and not say Columbus, because no one will want to play for him.
 
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