NHL Players Reportedly Bothered By Jacob Trouba Trade Saga With Rangers

[ORRFForever]

Good riddance to bad rubbish.

 

[Forge]

I'll be curious to see how hard players fight for this in the next negotiation and how firm the league is on it

 

[Peat]

I'm all in favour of more player control over where they live and work but reality is everyone knew the teams could do this, getting them to remove it in the next CBA is probably going to cost more than the PA can afford, and it's a fair point that nobody's campaigning for better protections for orgs who have to deal with players muscling their way out of contracts either.

 

[voyageur]

I think this may stem from the fact that Trouba definitely had all 7 Canadian teams on his NTC. And ironically at the time of the threat, he would have been turning down 5 teams in playoff positions.
But down near the bottom of the waiver claim order is Montreal who would have had a pretty decent chance of landing him. And instead of playing in sunny Cal, he could have been stuck going somewhere he has on his NTC. Which is a shame I guess. Forced his hand to choose Anaheim.

 

[blankall]

No sympathy. He got moved because he wanted to play for the Rangers but wasn't living up to his contract.

He's not playing for a contender, because he isn't pulling his own weight. You want $8 million per year, then you have to realize a contender can't keep you around if you're not playing up to that contract.

 

[x Tame Impala]

We’re not in the all star or Christmas break.

Trouba didn’t have a nmc. There is no loophole.

Unless, of course I’m missing something obvious

I personally think this is great. If you’re overpaid to the point that your team feels you’re negative value at age 30 you should consider yourself lucky you got the contract you did and go wherever they sign your paycheques

You’re missing something, friend. I agree with you. Some other poster was talking about a loophole if this waiver thing was implemented

 

[Chips]

I typically lean players as opposed to the league


But the team did nothing wrong except the leaks, which likely wasn’t the GM.


He had a ntc instead of a nmc. He can go on waivers, and the team felt he wasn’t helping more than he was hurting. They tried to work with him and gave him trade options.



I don’t think a team threatening to waive is any worse than a player with a 15 team trade list strategicly providing 15 teams he knows are least likely to take him.


One thing, I can agree with them if a no trade clause also limits for teans they block a trade to. So Devils are on his no trade list, then the waiver order auto skips them.


It sounded like they wanted only NMCs though ("only one type of protection") which, nah. Even if the league agreed to that, I'd assume teams would give less out.

 

[wolfgaze]

A great way to avoid being traded at a time that inconveniences your spouse/family would be to perform at a level somewhere close to the value of the contract you voluntarily negotiated for. Trouba failed to do that, and therefore caused his own early departure.

 

[Anthem]

I don't think they can really do anything about it, Rangers didn't break the rules.

They did very publicly treat their Captain like trash, after doing the same thing Goodrow and forcing him where he didn't want to go. If players want to demand full NMCs to sign with the Rangers then that seems like a perfectly fair outcome.

 

[Anthem]

I guess he should’ve signed a NMC then?

He did, the timing got messed up by COVID delaying his wife's plans for a year. The expiry of the NMC was supposed to line up.

Mocking the guy for poor planning when he didn't plan poorly is pretty unfair.

Also what does not having an NMC have to do with being extremely publicly shopped and then publicly bullied into waiving your NMC under threat of waivers and having zero control of where you go.

The way the Rangers handled this was really poor. If you have this conversation in private then everyone saves face and probably no one is that pissed. Tampa did this to McDonaugh after he won them two cups. Don't recall anyone caring.

 

[Anthem]

They hand out way too many NTC's and NMC's as it is. I have very little sympathy for hockey players with guaranteed contracts acting like they're owed anything above and beyond their millions. A player's personal feelings should not dictate an organization's future for half a decade. The league would be better if NTC's and NMC's were removed entirely.

The league would be better if max contract lenght was halved, NTC and NMC aren't the problem here. The problem is signing guys for 8 years at 28 then crying because they start to suck in their 30s.

Weird how you have zero sympathy for the people but want the teams to get a pass on their own stupid choices.

 

[Anthem]

lol, what are they planning on negotiating??

"We want to negotiate that if our NMC expires, that we are allowed to still block trades and moves" .

There is nothing to negotiate. The whole article is a joke.

The details of how NTC and NMC clauses work.

What's not clear about that?

and they can negotiate anything. It's called collective bargaining, it's a good thing.

 

[Anthem]

Because it's not a real problem and 99.9% of us would straight up WALK to Anaheim if it meant 3 lifetimes of financial stability for our entire families.

Your comment is almost as tone-deaf as Marie Antoinette. Let them eat pucks.

But that's not what it means. He's not getting anything for moving that he wasn't getting before.

This would be like you being forced to move to Anaheim by your current employer, against your will and entirely for their convenience with no adjustment to pay or benefits.

 

[Jugitsu]

I have zero sympathy for millionaire atheletes who retire with more money than 99% of the world in their 30's. That being said I feel like this goes against the spirit of the rule even if it doesn't go against the letter of the rule. Maybe extend the ntc to cover the waivers as well in the future?

 

[Look Up]

Players ARE commodities. Drury's job is to build the best team he can and not bend over bacvkwards for a player's wife.

Vegas and Tampa GMs approve of this message.

 

[ShootIt]

Yes, he had a NTC, but every agent knows that a NTC doesn't protect you from waivers.
He had a NMC, but had it negotiated to expire after a certain time. It expired.

If he didn't want to get traded, he could of gone on waivers. That's well within the right of the GM and something Trouba would of had to live with. If it bothered him so much to where he could of gone, there's always contract termination.

Drury gave Trouba a chance to at least have some say where he could go, with his contract/play being an obstacle for most teams.

Would players be "happy" had he just been waived, possibly unclaimed, and riding a bus in the AHL?

 

[HabsWhiteKnightLOL]

I would feel bad if players were not treated like kings. Access to everything with a phone call. Paid 8m a year not playing your contract and cry about getting traded that way. He chose NY because of his family. Should perhaps have asked less and a NMC if he wanted to stay.

Hard to care about such minimal things when a baseball player just signed a deal for 750m. Perhaps play better and stop slacking?

 

[Casper The Soy Ghost]

It's rumored that Trouba declined trade(s) to other team(s) that were not on his NTC by saying he wouldn't report to them.

If that's true the Rangers could've probably terminated his contract.

And if it's true - I have no sympathy for him.

 

[JPT]

Are all of the players who are upset also dramatically underperforming compared to their contracts?

 

[Maliks PlusMinus]

Everyone saying it’s good for business, like Goodrow, like Zuccarello etc etc, it leaves a mark that affects the players. Our team at the moment looks 100% like a group of workers pissed off with managers who don’t know if they’ll still be in the building next week and are no longer sure they want to be.

There’s a way to go about things and we’re doing it in a way that is bad for on ice business.

 

[NotCommitted]

I usually side with players on almost everything, but if you're underperforming your contract so bad your team would rather lose you for nothing through waivers than keep paying you, maybe you should just be happy you get paid more money in a year than most people get in their lifetime (or several) and move on.

 

[PatriceBergeronFan]

I have a feeling the PA will get this loophole closed next CBA.

For education purposes what is this loophole and why are players outraged at an overpaid, underperforming Trouba being traded?

 

[Theodore450]

Sucks for them. This league is full of papered Marners

 

[TheBeerNerd]

From a talent standpoint, I understand and agree with why the Rangers got rid of Trouba and Goodrow. And they didn't do anything wrong by the CBA, and it would take negotiations that the PA shouldn't be willing to drag out in order to change things.

However, Drury handled it in the worst way possible. There were right ways to handle this but he decided to strongarm departures for two guys that the locker room really liked.

 

[Suntouchable13]

No loophole, just need to be better at negotiating your contracts.

No, just play better. How about that? Then they wouldn't wanna trade you