Olympics: NHL participation in the 2022 Olympics

[TheGoldenJet]

Because he is looking out for what he feels are the best interests of the league by which he is employed?

Because of essentially his entire tenure as commissioner. Always putting the fans and the game of hockey second, and only looking out for short term financial gain.

 

[Past Considerations]

Because of essentially his entire tenure as commissioner. Always putting the fans and the game of hockey second, and only looking out for short term financial gain.

Whenever Bettman says something imagine it is a message from the 32 team owners.

That should make the big picture a lot clearer for you.

 

[TheGoldenJet]

Whenever Bettman says something imagine it is a message from the 32 team owners.

That should make the big picture a lot clearer for you.

I think the picture is clear enough without having to use make believe.

 

[patnyrnyg]

Because of essentially his entire tenure as commissioner. Always putting the fans and the game of hockey second, and only looking out for short term financial gain.

Short-term? Might want to research the financial situation of the league when he took over and compare to now.

 

[Past Considerations]

I think the picture is clear enough without having to use make believe.

I'm not the one refusing to accept the reality that Bettman simply represents the owners and does not do a lot without approval from the owners (especially not what comes to the Olympics question).

 

[patnyrnyg]

I'm not the one refusing to accept the reality that Bettman simply represents the owners and does not do a lot without approval from the owners (especially not what comes to the Olympics question).

While he DOES work for the owners, I think he has A LOT of pull and they for the most part go along with what he says. Why wouldn't they? Look at how the leagues revenues have grown under his watch. Yes, I am sure there are some who are not fans, but you are naive if you think he doesnt have a tremendous amount of influence and say.

 

[sawchuk1971]

is there ice hockey in the winter olympics or not?

 

[garbageteam]

There will 99.999% be ice hockey this winter Olympics. but maybe 70% chance of NHL participation.

 

[Jahara]

It would still be better than the last World Cup

No it would not. But the last Olympics in 2018 was terrible for real. Nonsense tournament.

 

[Boonk]

No it would not. But the last Olympics in 2018 was terrible for real. Nonsense tournament.

Yes it absolutely would.

 

[Jahara]

Yes it absolutely would.

One or two gimmick team will NOT make a best-vs-best tournament worse than all these other nonsense stuff without the top players like World Championships and EHT.

 

[Boonk]

One or two gimmick team will NOT make a best-vs-best tournament worse than all these other nonsense stuff without the top players like World Championships and EHT.

Except it was worse because of that

 

[Jahara]

Except it was worse because of that

It always keep fascinating me this thing with hockey people. They can run hundreds of nonsense tournaments without the best players and people accepts that crap. But trying something new in a World Cup once and you get this overreactions. Or did anyone miss a top team like Germany...

 

[JackSlater]

No it would not. But the last Olympics in 2018 was terrible for real. Nonsense tournament.

The 2018 Olympic tournament was nothing, but the NHL's 2016 world cup was worse. It's completely due to the gimmick teams that should never have existed in the first place.

 

[JETZZZ]

No it would not. But the last Olympics in 2018 was terrible for real. Nonsense tournament.

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[Boonk]

It always keep fascinating me this thing with hockey people. They can run hundreds of nonsense tournaments without the best players and people accepts that crap. But trying something new in a World Cup once and you get this overreactions. Or did anyone miss a top team like Germany...

Because those competitions don't utilize gimmick teams. Some people just like watching international hockey regardless if it's juniors or Olympics. Most people want to play for their country, not some gimmick Euro all star team.

 

[garbageteam]

The 2016 World Cup was also unwatchable garbage on top of the gimmicks.

Like a potpourri of Europeans from a certain select countries facing Canada O24 in a best of 3 was stupid enough as a storyline to get behind, but then the games just flat out sucked. There was about as much emotion on the players' faces as in the annual ASG. Russia played like a total joke for the most part, the U24 USA was definitely a B team and got wrecked by everyone they faced, including a Czech team that lost 6-0 to Canada. In a normal tournament they would have been competitive vs. Canada and would have been a compelling watch.

Sweden must have felt the tournament was such a massive joke losing in OT to not one but two gimmick teams. This was a team that went to the Finals in 2014. Finland looked like they felt bothered to even get out of bed to play this. The first two periods of the Canada-Russia SF game might have been the only salvageable hockey from a spectator standpoint.

I find it laughable and absurd anyone found this to be entertainment. It's more fitting for a 14 year old playing fantasy matchups on NHL EA. I'd be hard pressed to find it more interesting than the Spengler Cup even.

 

[Jahara]

Because those competitions don't utilize gimmick teams. Some people just like watching international hockey regardless if it's juniors or Olympics. Most people want to play for their country, not some gimmick Euro all star team.

Most people want to play for the team that pay them the best money. Or does anyone think people grew up playing with Kunlun? Or how much of a gimmick is a new team like Vegas Golden Knights?

The 2016 World Cup was also unwatchable garbage on top of the gimmicks.

Like a potpourri of Europeans from a certain select countries facing Canada O24 in a best of 3 was stupid enough as a storyline to get behind, but then the games just flat out sucked. There was about as much emotion on the players' faces as in the annual ASG. Russia played like a total joke for the most part, the U24 USA was definitely a B team and got wrecked by everyone they faced, including a Czech team that lost 6-0 to Canada. In a normal tournament they would have been competitive vs. Canada and would have been a compelling watch.

Sweden must have felt the tournament was such a massive joke losing in OT to not one but two gimmick teams. This was a team that went to the Finals in 2014. Finland looked like they felt bothered to even get out of bed to play this. The first two periods of the Canada-Russia SF game might have been the only salvageable hockey from a spectator standpoint.

I find it laughable and absurd anyone found this to be entertainment. It's more fitting for a 14 year old playing fantasy matchups on NHL EA. I'd be hard pressed to find it more interesting than the Spengler Cup even.

Last World Cup was way more entertaining than the crappy Olympics in 2014 that had like 3 games that were good. But I doubt people in the golf world have this complaints about the Ryder Cup and their "gimmick" Team Europe.

 

[Antiillafire]

I actually agree that the last World Cup was much more entertaining than the Olympics. My country was part of the gimmick team and I enjoyed it. Obviously it’s not the same as playing for your nation but at least we made the finals and gave Canada 2 tough games. If Slovakia, Germany or Switzerland was by itself it would be close to double digit loss. Just look at fully stacked Czech team who got badly beaten.

 

[Urbanskog]

I actually agree that the last World Cup was much more entertaining than the Olympics. My country was part of the gimmick team and I enjoyed it. Obviously it’s not the same as playing for your nation but at least we made the finals and gave Canada 2 tough games. If Slovakia, Germany or Switzerland was by itself it would be close to double digit loss. Just look at fully stacked Czech team who got badly beaten.

The last time we had an actual best on best tournament Canada beat Latvia 2:1 and Norway 3:1. They did beat Austria 6:0 but they are a significantly weaker team and even then it's far from a double digit loss.

 

[Antiillafire]

The last time we had an actual best on best tournament Canada beat Latvia 2:1 and Norway 3:1. They did beat Austria 6:0 but they are a significantly weaker team and even then it's far from a double digit loss.

Isn’t that Latvia game where the goalie stood on his head and Latvia generated almost zero chances outside of their loan goal?

 

[Urbanskog]

Isn’t that Latvia game where the goalie stood on his head and Latvia generated almost zero chances outside of their loan goal?

Does that make it close to a two digit loss?

 

[Antiillafire]

Does that make it close to a two digit loss?

I guess a little bit of exaggeration was involved. My point on the WC being better than the last Olympics still stands however

 

[Urbanskog]

I guess a little bit of exaggeration was involved. My point on the WC being better than the last Olympics still stands however

With that view you are in a tiny minority.

 

[JackSlater]

Most people want to play for the team that pay them the best money. Or does anyone think people grew up playing with Kunlun? Or how much of a gimmick is a new team like Vegas Golden Knights?


Last World Cup was way more entertaining than the crappy Olympics in 2014 that had like 3 games that were good. But I doubt people in the gold world have this complaints about the Ryder Cup and their "gimmick" Team Europe.

How do people in the "gold" world feel about team Europe minus the good countries when it takes on team USA over an arbitrary age in what is presented as an international tournament?