Olympics: NHL participation in the 2022 Olympics
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Team Russia:
1. Line: Yevgeni Dadonov - Yevgeni Malkin - Alexander Radulov
2. Line: Nikita Gusev or Alexander Ovechkin - Vladislav Namestnikov - Nikita Kucherov
3. Line: Artemi Panarin - Artyom Anisimov or Pavel Datsyuk - Kirill Kaprizov
4. Line: Pavel Buchnevich - Ivan Barbashyov - Andrei Svechnikov
Extra: Ilya Mikheyev, Grigori Denisenko, Mikhail Grigorenko, Vitali Kravtsov, Valeri Nichushkin
D1: Ivan Provorov - Mikhail Sergachyov
D2: Dmitri Orlov - Nikita Zaitsev
D3: Alexander Romanov - Artyom Zub
Extra: Vladislav Gavrikov, Nikita Zadorov, Nikolai Knyzhov
G1: Andrei Vasilevsky
G2: Ilya Sorokin
G3: Igor Shestyorkin
1. Line: Yevgeni Dadonov - Yevgeni Malkin - Alexander Radulov
2. Line: Nikita Gusev or Alexander Ovechkin - Vladislav Namestnikov - Nikita Kucherov
3. Line: Artemi Panarin - Artyom Anisimov or Pavel Datsyuk - Kirill Kaprizov
4. Line: Pavel Buchnevich - Ivan Barbashyov - Andrei Svechnikov
Extra: Ilya Mikheyev, Grigori Denisenko, Mikhail Grigorenko, Vitali Kravtsov, Valeri Nichushkin
D1: Ivan Provorov - Mikhail Sergachyov
D2: Dmitri Orlov - Nikita Zaitsev
D3: Alexander Romanov - Artyom Zub
Extra: Vladislav Gavrikov, Nikita Zadorov, Nikolai Knyzhov
G1: Andrei Vasilevsky
G2: Ilya Sorokin
G3: Igor Shestyorkin
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TheGoldenJet
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Too bad the team was selected before McDavid won or proved anything at the NHL level.
MacKinnon at least had some playoff success, if Canada selected only one of the Team North America players, they likely would be taking him.
Most likely, neither of them would’ve made team Canada. They weren’t considered good enough for top 6 roles at that time and the bottom 6 was full of sound two-way players.
WarriorofTime
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It sounds fairly optimistic from that particular article. There are still plenty of barriers, but the way some posters here make it sound like it's under 10% chance where based on that author's reasoning and knowledge it looks more like an over 70% chance from my read.
Zine
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what are you talking about? Rotenberg recently said he’s in contact with Panarin and all is good.
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Wings4Life
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I like the effort, but the top line should be Malkin with Kucherov, and someone like Buchnevich on the left wing.
Russia only has one elite center remaining in Malkin and he is getting older, you cannot play him with inferior players in a best-on-best tournament and expect success. And make no mistake, a 35 year old has-been in Radulov and a 20 point never-was in Dadonov are inferior players at the Olympic level. Dadonov may not even make the team.
TheGoldenJet
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He did, but Putin is going to bide his time and bait him into communist territory first.
WarriorofTime
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Yeah I see the sarcasm emoji, but I do legitimately worry about Panarin's safety if he goes to the Olympics in China with the Russian delegation... things have "happened" to Putin's opponents in the past, he can't have been too happy with a very high profile sportsman criticizing his regime.He did, but Putin is going to bide his time and bait him into communist territory first.
There's no reason for NHL to go to China very strange if they decide to go. It should Be expected these Will Be Similar to 2018 Olympics no NHL.
He's been living it up back in Russia since the season ended. He's in no danger whatsoever. As long as he's not a direct threat or exposing the inner workings of Putin's power he's totally fine.
WarriorofTime
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If Bettman ever wanted to make a play for Chinese viewership this is the best way to do it, but dunno, hockey is non-existent in China, I can't say what basketball in China was like 30 years ago or why the NBA succeeded in getting so popular there, but hockey just seems too dead in the water/needs too much infrastructure to get popular in vast portions of the world.
varsaku
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I think they are probably split on it. On one hand they probably don’t want to miss this opportunity to enter the Chinese market and on the other don’t want to halt the season.
Even if only 1 % of the Chinese people will follow NHL and half of them buy products, its a win.
There isn't any short-term benefit to the league/owners. There is tremendous long-term benefit if they can use it to build the game. The Olympics dramatically increased the global audience for the NBA. Unfortunately, team owners rarely look beyond short-term benefits and costs.
Rabid Ranger
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Basketball is also a much more accessible game that can be played anywhere. Ice hockey is not and never will be. The fact the NHL is lukewarm on China says it all. To be clear, I want to see NHLers at the Olympics because it's a true best on best tournament. However, I would be just as happy with a well put together World Cup hosted in North America.
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The NHL doesn't have to match the NBA; it can still grow the game within a smaller market. Hockey can be played in northern China. The Olympics can grow the game in markets like Germany, Japan and the United States.
Rabid Ranger
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The Olympics just don't have that kind of long term affect on a micro level, at least where the NHL is concerned (with the possible exception of the Miracle on Ice). For hockey to be more popular in markets like China it would take a seismic shift culturally and economically.
I think the Olympics have more of a chance at growing the game in a place with some hockey infrastructure and a semi-reasonable competitive team. A place like Germany, France or even Japan fits the bill. For instance, having Leon Draisatl and Grubauer starring for Germany and having them pull off an upset or two could really generate some interest in that country. They have some infrastructure already with a decent professional league, rinks, hosted the WHC, people who aren't too averse to skating/winter sports, etc. but there's also lots of room to grow as its still sort of on the fringes over there like what hockey was in Florida 30 years ago. It is also a fairly big, wealthy country that could contribute to the NHL's business in the not-too-distant future.
China on the other hand? There is basically zero hockey infrastructure, and will rely on dual Canadian/US residents to fill their roster. It will be a 2 week show of the best talent and then hockey will never be spoken of again. What will build interest in that country for the future will be a domestic league that is competitive and then have them start developing some players who can get drafted, compete in Canadian juniors/US college and finally make the jump to the NHL.
China on the other hand? There is basically zero hockey infrastructure, and will rely on dual Canadian/US residents to fill their roster. It will be a 2 week show of the best talent and then hockey will never be spoken of again. What will build interest in that country for the future will be a domestic league that is competitive and then have them start developing some players who can get drafted, compete in Canadian juniors/US college and finally make the jump to the NHL.
It has to be a huge effort logistically, organizationally and administratively to re-engineer the season to accommodate the Olympics, so I am thinking they better commit to it one way or another pretty soon. The Olympic torch will be lit in less than 7 months, and it doesn't sound like the kind of thing you can throw together at the last minute.
WarriorofTime
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Is there still time to quickly add Ice Hockey to this Summer Olympics? Nagano is only a 3 hour drive from Tokyo, what's that rink doing these days? 
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