NHL News/Notes XIX
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AHL Hall of Fame announces Class of 2024
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Sommer among the 2024 AHL HOF inductees. (Held at ASG festivities)
Congratulations, Roy.
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100x worse then an organization that covered up an actual crime. Make it make sense to me please.
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What an absolute joke. One org enables and protects a sexual predator out of willful ignorance and naked self-interest and they get a slap on the wrist and a "don't do that" finger-wag from the league. Another org forgets to send along some papers regarding an obviously murky issue and they get stripped of a 1st.
If we use the Coyotes losing a pick due to holding improper draft workouts/testing as the standardized bar for crime & punishment, it makes even less sense.
If we use the Coyotes losing a pick due to holding improper draft workouts/testing as the standardized bar for crime & punishment, it makes even less sense.
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Senators part ways with general manager Pierre Dorion after 8 seasons
New Senators owner Michael Andlauer did not like where things were headed for the team amid a tumultuous start to the season — on and off the ice.
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Sens GM out
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Let’s see if DW is considered for the job.
Senators part ways with general manager Pierre Dorion after 8 seasons
New Senators owner Michael Andlauer did not like where things were headed for the team amid a tumultuous start to the season — on and off the ice.
Sens GM out
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Am I the only one that doesn’t understand this?
Ottawa’s trade to Vegas was fully legal.
Vegas’ trade to Anaheim was in violation of the contract.
Somehow it’s Ottawa’s fault?
I saw that Dorian allegedly claimed Dadonov never submitted his ten-team list, so that’s a Dorian thing. But how did Ottawa violate the terms of Dadonov’s contract in a transaction between Vegas and Anaheim?
And does the NHL not go over this shit on the trade calls? What is the NHL Central Registry for if not exactly keeping this from happening?
Ottawa’s trade to Vegas was fully legal.
Vegas’ trade to Anaheim was in violation of the contract.
Somehow it’s Ottawa’s fault?
I saw that Dorian allegedly claimed Dadonov never submitted his ten-team list, so that’s a Dorian thing. But how did Ottawa violate the terms of Dadonov’s contract in a transaction between Vegas and Anaheim?
And does the NHL not go over this shit on the trade calls? What is the NHL Central Registry for if not exactly keeping this from happening?
The reason it is an Ottawa fault is because they lied to vegas about his no trade clause, making the player easier to trade in the future if needed by vegas. When Vegas tried to do just that, they were informed by the players agent that Anaheim was on his no trade list that they showed proof of giving to Ottawa.
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Ottawa gave Dadonov a contract that included a limited NTC with a 10-team no-trade list
Then when they wanted to trade him, Vegas wasn't one of the teams he would block a trade to so they sent him there.
Here is where the issue crops up.
Vegas contended that when they executed the trade with Ottawa, they point-blank asked the Senators if there were any trade/movement clauses in Dadonov's contract that they needed to be aware of and were told that there were none (presumably creating the illusion in Vegas' eyes that his prior NTC was rescinded in light of the deal to Vegas as it is common for a player who agrees to waive his NTC to facilitate a trade to no longer have those protections again after the deal is completed. Or that there had been communication breakdowns between the Sens and Dadonov which led to the clause not being updated with them before a necessary deadline.)
So when the Knights turned around and tried to trade him to Anaheim (a team that was on his 10-team no-trade list), they had no reason to suspect it was not permitted and didn't find out until the trade was finalized and someone in Dadonov's camp filed a complaint over Vegas' (unknowing) non-compliance. This led to the deal being rescinded before they eventually traded him to Montreal. But as a result the club claims that they've been hit with the reputation of being attempted rule-breakers and they kept pushing for the league to investigate the Senators' actions in the original trade so that they would receive "rightful" blame for the screw up and absolve Vegas of the rep given that they were duped into the situation unknowingly.
You're right that there should've been other checks (Vegas should've checked with Dadonov's management about how they viewed the NTC prior to the Anahiem deal. And they should've also gotten clarification from the league.) but I believe when the snafu originally happened reporters said that while NHL central registry does track player rights to make sure that nobody trades for/away a guy they don't technically have control over, there is no central hub for NTC/NMC clauses in contracts. There probably should be. And at the end of the day this ultimately is Ottawa's fault as the onus was on them to understand the nature of the clause they gave out to ensure they gave Vegas all the proper information in the trade. If they made faulty assumptions about it based on Dadonov's camp submitting things wrong or that the clause was no longer active at the time of the trade to Vegas, that's on them. Vegas wasn't really in a position to doubt their sincerity given that this sort of situation almost never happens.
