NHL Expansion back on agenda?

Big Z Man 1990

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Don't say anything at all
I don’t watch any of those, so they can do whatever they want,
But definitely have no interest in the North division.

And you never in the last year have answered the question numerous posters have asked.

Do you think the NY teams and Boston would like playing in a division with LA, SJ and Anaheim.?
You always avoid answering that conveniently , we know why, as those teams would hate it as well.
There's enough American teams that they can be divided into four divisions based on the four main regions - Northeast, Midwestern, South, and West.

Besides there is a counter argument here: three major college conferences now span from coast to coast.
 

RayMartyniukTotems

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Yes I agree that a team in Atlanta should come back but for the love of GOD make sure there’s a proper arena available or built and do this properly!! Also I’d like to see KC and QC come back and a new team in Houston wouldn’t be a bad thing either!! :dunno:
And Milwaukee is a Northern City that would be a hit in the NHL and San Diego doesn't have much competition for the Dollar during the Winter months and lets have the Hartford Whalers come back with that Awesome logo and Hamilton could round out the NHL to 40 teams...I'd even like to see a 44 team NHL with 32 teams making the play-offs and 1 plays 16 in each Conference so no back door winning the Cup...as for my 4 other teams well Portland would be good for Seattle and Vancouver,BC,Canada,Cincinnati or Cleveland or both and Omaha or Indianapolis...and lets go a step farther and go 4 on 4 hockey with no OT's until play-offs and no F...ing 3 on 3 crap...want to see lots of goals and have the goaltenders handling 45-55 shots per game and be talking and mumbling and babbling in their sleep
 

Golden_Jet

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There's enough American teams that they can be divided into four divisions based on the four main regions - Northeast, Midwestern, South, and West.

Besides there is a counter argument here: three major college conferences now span from coast to coast.
No one cares what colleges do,

Canadians teams wouldn’t accept it, nor the fans, so it doesn’t matter, we now know what’s it like. So you can keep spouting your idea, it’s going nowhere.
Numerous posters told you a year ago, it was bad idea, nothing changed in the last year.
Cheers
 
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Big Z Man 1990

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Don't say anything at all
No one cares what colleges do,

Canadians teams wouldn’t accept it, so it doesn’t matter, nor the fans, we now know what’s it like. So you can keep spouting your idea, it’s going nowhere.
Numerous posters told you a year ago, it was bad idea, nothing changed in the last year.
Cheers
Again, I must point out that not only does my proposal guarantee a Canadian team in the SCF, it also prevents situations like in 2016 when no Canadian team made the playoffs. Surely no fan of a Canadian team would be fine with an all-American playoffs.
 

aqib

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"So quickly" is funny considering they added nine franchises (and 14 new markets) in a span of like 12 years in the 1990s.

The stage NHL expansion is in right now is roughly the same as it was when we had threads about "The NHL is going to 32 after the CBA is settled!" And the Kraken took the ice NINE YEARS LATER.

You're right that "sudden rapid expansion is bad." But that's why you're always better off adding one team every 6 years than dropping six teams at once every 36 years.




That's all the history of backroom dealing in sports expansion attempt history. Which I find fascinating.

The short version is: Houston knew they needed a new NBA/NHL arena but were waiting to see whom they needed to include in negotiations; because three different groups in Houston put in bids for an NHL expansion team. And the NHL wasn't giving a team without an arena plan in place, so they rejected all three bids. Houston worked an arena deal with the NBA owner that said they wouldn't allow for a competing arena, so the NBA is the only guy who can bring an NHL team to Houston. The NBA owner (both of them over time) have never wanted to pay full price.

If Seattle had their arena situation squared away they would have gotten a team at the same time as Vegas.
As far as Houston goes I wonder which of the 4 98-00 expansion teams would have been left out if Houston had gotten in.
 

dj4aces

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Again, I must point out that not only does my proposal guarantee a Canadian team in the SCF, it also prevents situations like in 2016 when no Canadian team made the playoffs. Surely no fan of a Canadian team would be fine with an all-American playoffs.
Look... in the current system, teams have to earn it. If that means 16 US-based teams make the playoffs because the seven Canadian teams suck, so be it. There's also a scenario where every Canadian team makes the playoffs.
 

ponder719

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There are ideas that are far worse than my proposal that have been put into place, like the NBA play-in games and not adopting a North VS. South format for the expanded College Football Playoff.

No, nobody has put into place a worse system than "8 teams have on average a 1-in-8 chance of playing for the championship, the other 32 teams have on average a 1-in-32 chance of playing for the championship," The European Super League tried, and even their best effort wasn't as ludicrous as that.
 
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Tawnos

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No, nobody has put into place a worse system than "8 teams have on average a 1-in-8 chance of playing for the championship, the other 32 teams have on average a 1-in-32 chance of playing for the championship," The European Super League tried, and even their best effort wasn't as ludicrous as that.

It's seriously one of the worst ideas I've ever seen on BoH.
 

RayMartyniukTotems

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Maybe someday.

Not sure if any team coming back to Arizona would carry the Coyotes name. Think the mood here seems to be to go in a different direction even with the Kachina logo being as popular as it was.
If and when a team in Phoenix present the NHL 1.5 B they should go with the Ol' name of Roadrunners from the WHL-WHA days...terrific name and logo just spitballing...just make sure Meruelo is no where near it would fail again and again and again
 

Barclay Donaldson

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Again, I must point out that not only does my proposal guarantee a Canadian team in the SCF, it also prevents situations like in 2016 when no Canadian team made the playoffs. Surely no fan of a Canadian team would be fine with an all-American playoffs.

Canadian teams don't deserve anything. Teams get into playoffs based on how they perform. If Ottawa gets outplayed by eight American teams up and down the East Coast, then the Canadian capital goes without hockey in the spring.

Can you stop your delusional dribble and go back to posting on a non-hockey board?
 

tucker3434

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There's enough American teams that they can be divided into four divisions based on the four main regions - Northeast, Midwestern, South, and West.

Besides there is a counter argument here: three major college conferences now span from coast to coast.

College sports are an entirely different animal. Conferences are independent from the NCAA. They have their own tv contracts, revenue sharing, etc. There's no scenario where Edmonton gets invited to the Atlantic division so they can get a piece of that western Canada revenue. They've already got it. So there's no need for irrational footprints.
 

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