GDT: NHL Draft 2023 | 4:00 PT | ESPN, SN, TVAS
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They are both great players and Carlsson could end up being the better one but I just can't stomach walking away from Fantilli's ceiling. He has everything. Yes there are kinks he needs to work out, maybe more of them than Carlsson, but I think they are all teachable and everything indicates he is an extremely smart kid who is willing to listen and learn.
I just see this as us potentially taking Kopitar over MacKinnon. And I don't like that.
I just see this as us potentially taking Kopitar over MacKinnon. And I don't like that.
In Madden we trust.
I know the focus is on the #2, but this draft is huge for the Ducks. They have to hit on some forwards and bolster the ranks.
I know the focus is on the #2, but this draft is huge for the Ducks. They have to hit on some forwards and bolster the ranks.
You trust him more than I do but that's basically where we are.
He has run the draft for the team that by many metrics has had the most draft success during that time frame. What else do you want?
His comments about Columbus were interesting. He is guessing their ranking is Fantilli, Smith, Carlsson. I would have thought just the opposite.
2023 NHL Mock Draft: After Connor Bedard goes No. 1, Corey Pronman sees room for surprise
Who will go No. 2? It could be Leo Carlsson or Adam Fantilli. And Matvei Michkov remains a wild card at the top of the draft.theathletic.com
Pronams final mock. Has us taking Carlsson. Says “ I dont know what Anaheim will do but Carlsson No2 is a legitimate option around the league”View attachment 722483
Either way, I still think there is a deal to be made between 2OA and 3OA. I'm hoping at this point that the Ducks end up picking 3OA and get some additional assets. I'm almost beyond caring whether they get Fantilli or Carlsson.
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It’s a bit weird in that it isn’t a lot of movement for Fantilli but it’s a good jump for Carlsson. Odds aren’t everything and all that and are going to be influenced by talk like this but definitely trending Carlsson.
I don’t love Maddens record of drafting forwards so I’m not gonna give him the benefit of the doubt necessarily especially if they go michkov. Only time will tell
This just doesn't happen. Why wouldn't the Ducks just put some confidence in the kid they select at 2 and select him at 2. None of these choices are off the board, so i don't know what you'd recoup by trading down to 3. Columbus would probably just prefer to call the bluff and take whats left over.
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They're not going Michkov. That would just be nuts. I mean i guess they could. But i really just can't see it
I'm not predicting it but I think it could happen. All it takes is for Columbus to badly want Fantilli or Carlsson and be willing to move up to 2OA to guarantee it. The Ducks could still get their guy and monetize that pick at the same time. We just don't know.
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Carlsson is a tier below because of? I do fully trust the work of our staff. If they rate someone at #2 he will be there for a reason, no matter what the internet scouts think of.
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Always funny when someone exactly knows where floor and ceiling lies.
Arthuros
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Just doing some pot-stirring.
To be fair, I did say "seems like", and I've made it clear multiple times that I don't actually play the game.
Just doing some pot-stirring.
To be fair, I did say "seems like", and I've made it clear multiple times that I don't actually play the game.
In your defense, I have read those player comparisons from multiple places.
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Off the top of my head, he hasn’t done well with late first round picks.
Perreault, Tracey, Lundestrom, Jones, Steel, Larsson.
Those four the jury is still out there. But doesn't look like Jones is going to be where we'd hoped. But I still like the player, Lundy had a step back but he is slated to be a 30-40 point shutdown C, going to need that down the road. Perreault and Tracey, also took a step back but still have time.
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I thought I was going for Stephens' job at the Athletic, but maybe I should be going after Pronman's instead!
As long as it’s not “The pick is in!”
Fine with whoever we take. My only thought on this is if you’re a GM and you take Fantilli here and it doesn’t work out, then it’s sort of it is what is but if you “reach” for Carlsson and it doesn’t work out it looks pretty bad.
I would be very entertained if they took Carlsson.
The way the fanbase and media narrative went from "Fantilli and Carlsson are about equal" to "it's obviously going to be Fantilli there's no doubt whatsoever" hasn't felt based on anything that happened on ice.
The way the fanbase and media narrative went from "Fantilli and Carlsson are about equal" to "it's obviously going to be Fantilli there's no doubt whatsoever" hasn't felt based on anything that happened on ice.
No. My point is you are unimpressed with Madden even though he has probably been the best guy at his job for almost 15 years. You want him to be better, which is absurd. Do you also expect McDavid to be better?
2 of those guys are still prospects, and the other 4 have 212, 206, 262, and 172 NHL games played.
Do you guys not understand that is good?
Late 1st rounders have a less then 50% chance of playing 100 NHL games.
Even if you want to call Larsson a bust since he is out of the league, thats still 3/4 legit NHLers from late 1st round picks.
The Ducks have insane success at the draft compared to the league average.
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