NHL: Around the League 53

[Joemoe]

Do not try to rush a rebuild... said that always and always. It does not work the way this league is set up

But the Hawks got Bedard the first draft of the rebuild they better be Cup favorites by year three of his ELC!!!

 

[TLEH]

I don’t think Kakko is gonna be anything but I would have paid that to find out

 

[ColbyChaos]

Definitely would have been fine with sending a 4th, a 5th, and Phillips for Kakko honestly

 

[Mrfenn92]

 

[BLKHKhockey]

Kane DeBrincat on a 2 on 1 is about as automatic as it gets.

 

[Hawkaholic]

Do not try to rush a rebuild... said that always and always. It does not work the way this league is set up

Yup, people pointed to Rangers as an example of "rushing" a rebuild and it being a success. Doesn't look like it worked too well.

 

[ColbyChaos]

Yup, people pointed to Rangers as an example of "rushing" a rebuild and it being a success. Doesn't look like it worked too well.

its a miracle Laf even turned into a good player.

Rebuilding and making the playoffs sure is easy if you have a norris level Dman force his way to play for you. Its even easier if the previous man in charge drafted an elite goalie who can mask any and all flaws in a mediocre forward group

 

[Mrfenn92]

 

[ello]

Yea KD shouldve been in on this. I can easily see Kakko becoming a 50-60+ point 2 way winger with the right coaching and opportunities.

 

[Hattrick Kane]

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Trotz is a joke

 

[Blackhawkswincup]

Yup, people pointed to Rangers as an example of "rushing" a rebuild and it being a success. Doesn't look like it worked too well.

I mean they lost two Conf Finals and were generally among best teams in league the past few years

And they really didn't rush rebuild. The young guys they pegged as future mostly haven't worked out as hoped

 

[Mrfenn92]

Trotz is a joke

I think this is a good deal for the Preds

 

[x Tame Impala]

I would’ve traded one of our vet forwards plus a mid round pick for Kakko in a heartbeat. I hope we pry someone from the Sabres soon

 

[Hattrick Kane]

I mean they lost two Conf Finals and were generally among best teams in league the past few years

And they really didn't rush rebuild. The young guys they pegged as future mostly haven't worked out as hoped

They got extremely lucky in their rebuild. Winning two consecutive draft lotteries. Panarin being available when they had cap space. Fox only wanting to play for New York.

I’d like to think this is a balancing of sorts.

 

[x Tame Impala]

They got extremely lucky in their rebuild. Winning two consecutive draft lotteries. Panarin being available when they had cap space. Fox only wanting to play for New York.

I’d like to think this is a balancing of sorts.

It balances out with Laf and Kakko being completely underwhelming

 

[Hawkaholic]

It balances out with Laf and Kakko being completely underwhelming

Which is why you don't rush it. You don't know what your young players are going to do. Chicago doesn't have the Fox, Shesterkin, Zibanejad, Kreiders, already there to even attempt it. See what you have with your draft picks before splurging in UFA.

 

[ello]

Yup, people pointed to Rangers as an example of "rushing" a rebuild and it being a success. Doesn't look like it worked too well.

Idk man hockey is so volatile. The rangers won a presidents trophy and made a couple conference finals. They easily couldve been a couple good bounces away from a cup final and frankly if Panarin was more of a playoff type player they probably would have.

 

[ClydeLee]

If Trouba doesn't head shot Crosby they wouldn't of beaten the Pens in 1 of those playoff runs

 

[x Tame Impala]

Which is why you don't rush it. You don't know what your young players are going to do. Chicago doesn't have the Fox, Shesterkin, Zibanejad, Kreiders, already there to even attempt it. See what you have with your draft picks before splurging in UFA.

Panarin and Zibanejad are poor playoff performers relative to their cap hits, Trouba is just an $8m waste of space.

The Rangers made mistakes with those guys but it’s hard to blame them for going for it after drafting 2nd and 1st OVR.

 

[ColbyChaos]

I mean they lost two Conf Finals and were generally among best teams in league the past few years

And they really didn't rush rebuild. The young guys they pegged as future mostly haven't worked out as hoped

They made the ecf off the back of Igor being insane. Just like the Hank era their forwards were not at all good enough and they disappeared when it mattered (Laf and Kreider being the only guys who showed up on a semi consistent basis).

You can’t win with Zibanebad as your 1C just as you couldn’t win with guys like Stepan and Brassard as your 1C

Panarin is a disappointment as well in almost every playoffs besides 2019.

 

[Hawkaholic]

Idk man hockey is so volatile. The rangers won a presidents trophy and made a couple conference finals. They easily couldve been a couple good bounces away from a cup final and frankly if Panarin was more of a playoff type player they probably would have.

Panarin and Zibanejad are poor playoff performers relative to their cap hits, Trouba is just an $8m waste of space.

The Rangers made mistakes with those guys but it’s hard to blame them for going for it after drafting 2nd and 1st OVR.

Yet people want to sign Mitch Marner here.

 

[GIADF]

I still think Marner would be the perfect addition for Bedard. He's 27 and has a game that will age incredibly well. He's the playmaker that can get the puck to Bedard so we can see his lethal shot more often, but since he's on an island alone he's lucky to get 2 SOG lately.

If the window for this team to reach the playoffs isn't for another 4-5 years he's still only going to be in his early 30s. Kucherov is 31 now and will playing at an elite level, and I think Marner can easily as well.

It's not like the Hawks are loaded with forward prospects. Ideally Nazar sticks as the anchor to the second line. If he does, then who do we have for Bedard to play with? Boisvert in 3-4 years? I like Dach, but he's not a top line guy. Neither is Moore.

 

[Clownish]

There's a HUGE jump from signing a bunch of guys like Zibanejad and Trouba compared to wanting one suitable linemate for Bedard. It's like they were hoping for some infinite money glitch by putting random middle six guys on his line, wait for inflated stats, then dump them for 2nd round picks at the deadline.

 

[GIADF]

Expanding a bit to look at next years roster. Assuming Bedard and Nazar center their own lines, linemate options for Bedard next year would be TT, Bertuzzi, Foligno, Dickinson, Mikheyev, and Reichel. Whatever combo you get for him out of that, opposing defense will continue to lock him down and he's going to struggle to hit his potential in year 3.

Maybe if we're lucky Dach and Slaggert can join the big club, but they're not top line guys either.

At some point you need to invest in your top asset and not bargain bin shop. I tihnk next year would be the year to do it. You have a ton of prospects drafted already, another top pick coming up, the Leafs pick, and two more second rounders.

 

[DisgruntledHawkFan]

Yeesh is that KK return underwhelming. At worst he's a Donato on steroids. Fire Drury today.