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Studnicka is a pretty fast skater.

The production isn't there, but maybe KD sees him as a 2-way hustle guy like Sam Lafferty? They have similar profiles.
 
That hockey player who killed Johnson in the UK league has been arrested and charged with manslaughter. The reasoning is he allegedly intentionally kicked Johnson even though he wasn’t aiming for the throat.

Regrettably I saw the video, it was grainy so it was hard to get a super detailed impression. I didn’t see any intent there. Looked like an accident to me.
 
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x Tame Impala said:
That hockey player who killed Johnson in the UK league has been arrested and charged with manslaughter. The reasoning is he allegedly intentionally kicked Johnson even though he wasn’t aiming for the throat.

Regrettably I saw the video, it was grainy so it was hard to get a super detailed impression. I didn’t see any intent there. Looked like an accident to me.
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I always have to remind myself it’s not about intent, it’s about the result.

We have players in the NHL who actively try to hurt players with minimal consqequences. But a freak accident gets you arrested. Hell Kassian a few years ago straight up kicked a guy on purpose and got what 5 games? It’s confusing to say the least.
 
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It looked to me like he got thrown off balance, tried to stick his leg back to block Johnson, and his skate got too high as a result of either losing balance or the collision itself.

He obviously did not intend to cut the guys neck, and the backlash/racist attacks I hear Petgrave has been getting as well are disgusting, but I do see an argument being made that he because he intended to stick his leg back there and caught him up high that it was reckless/dangerous (and possibly criminal)
 
Probably the best thread to put this in:

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The teams in the Dub just continue to hire dinosaurs to coach.
 
Hattrick Kane said:
I always have to remind myself it’s not about intent, it’s about the result.

We have players in the NHL who actively try to hurt players with minimal consqequences. But a freak accident gets you arrested. Hell Kassian a few years ago straight up kicked a guy on purpose and got what 5 games? It’s confusing to say the least.
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I don't think it was a freak accident. It will be hard to prove intent, but he has a history of this. For a nobody plug, playing in shit leagues, there shouldn't be multiple videos of you with your skate above the waist when hitting a guy. But, there are. He's a reckless piece of shit, and it's about time a guy who plays that way, sees legal consequences. I have no doubt in my mind he meant to get his leg up on that hit. Actions have consequences.
 
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If a soccer player dives in recklessly and ends up breaking a guys leg are they going to charge him with reckless endangerment or whatever the equivalent is in the UK? Sports aren't real life. Can you fight in the English league?
 
DisgruntledHawkFan said:
If a soccer player dives in recklessly and ends up breaking a guys leg are they going to charge him with reckless endangerment or whatever the equivalent is in the UK? Sports aren't real life. Can you fight in the English league?
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I think the difference is whether or not the reckless play is considered a "hockey play" or a "soccer play". I don't see what he did as a hockey play, so f*** him.

And also, f*** anyone who plays the sport only to hurt people. This guy is a f***ing no-talent goon. He's only out there to hurt people. Good riddance.
 
Pez68 said:
I think the difference is whether or not the reckless play is considered a "hockey play" or a "soccer play". I don't see what he did as a hockey play, so f*** him.

And also, f*** anyone who plays the sport only to hurt people. This guy is a f***ing no-talent goon. He's only out there to hurt people. Good riddance.
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Is punching a guy in the head a hockey play? Second paragraph I've got no problem with.
 
DisgruntledHawkFan said:
Kicking is also a penalty.
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Fighting results in a 5 minute penalty, and you can carry on. Kicking results in a misconduct, and a suspension. Hardly comparable.

I'm also not sure why you are glossing over the fact that fighting is a universally accepted part of the game, and kicking IS NOT.
 
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Fighting results in a 5 minute penalty, and you can carry on. Kicking results in a misconduct, and a suspension. Hardly comparable.

I'm also not sure why you are glossing over the fact that fighting is a universally accepted part of the game, and kicking IS NOT.
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Elbowing then. Cross checking. Guys get knocked unconscious on reckless hits every other month. No shortage of cheap shots in the NHL alone.

I'm not glossing over kicking being a terrible thing in hockey, but it's a written penalty because it happens enough that it needs to be a written rule.

What happened is awful. I'm not gonna pretend to know anything about UK law, but a guy catching a potential manslaughter charge for a reckless decision made during a professional contact sport seems pretty unprecedented to me.
 
DisgruntledHawkFan said:
Elbowing then. Cross checking. Guys get knocked unconscious on reckless hits every other month. No shortage of cheap shots in the NHL alone.

I'm not glossing over kicking being a terrible thing in hockey, but it's a written penalty because it happens enough that it needs to be a written rule.

What happened is awful. I'm not gonna pretend to know anything about UK law, but a guy catching a potential manslaughter charge for a reckless decision made during a professional contact sport seems pretty unprecedented to me.
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And maybe they should start catching charges for that shit? Because the leagues certainly don't know how to police it out of the sport. Getting elbowed or crosschecked in the head isn't what guys sign up for when they play hockey. It's above and beyond the risks associated with the sport.

I'm of the opinion that any dirty shit that falls outside the realm of a "hockey play" is basically just straight up assault, and should be treated as such. Playing a contact sport doesn't give you carte blanche to run around and intentionally hurt people. It's not the 1980's anymore.

It's a better sport without those psychopaths in it.
 
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And maybe they should start catching charges for that shit? Because the leagues certainly don't know how to police it out of the sport. Getting elbowed or crosschecked in the head isn't what guys sign up for when they play hockey. It's above and beyond the risks associated with the sport.

I'm of the opinion that any dirty shit that falls outside the realm of a "hockey play" is basically just straight up assault, and should be treated as such. Playing a contact sport doesn't give you carte blanche to run around and intentionally hurt people. It's not the 1980's anymore.

It's a better sport without those psychopaths in it.
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The NHL can't figure it out and they've got a vested financial interest in figuring it out. Turning it over to Cook County isn't the answer.

The NHL should do much more than it does. Going from dart board random suspensions and laughably nothing 5k fines to felony charges isn't the play.
 
DisgruntledHawkFan said:
The NHL can't figure it out and they've got a vested financial interest in figuring it out. Turning it over to Cook County isn't the answer.

The NHL should do much more than it does. Going from dart board random suspensions and laughably nothing 5k fines to felony charges isn't the play.
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This isn't the NHL though. This is some second-rate pro league in England. Millions of dollars aren't on the line. These guys make peanuts. This is exactly the league you should be pressing charges in, when guys cross the line like this.

This is not unprecedented, either. Players have been charged with crimes for on-ice actions before.
 
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