NHL 25 Discussion

[FerrisRox]

they should just go back to original controls

I couldn't disagree more.

I would be done with the franchise if they went back to the original, basic controls.

 

[EdJovanovski]

Anybody who plays Be a Pro know if players grow physically in height & weight?

I want my player to end up 5’10 & 175lb but idk if I should make him that size from the start or if he grows & gains weight? IIRC some games they did grow and some they didn’t.

 

[tucson83]

I couldn't disagree more.

I would be done with the franchise if they went back to the original, basic controls.

then dont buy it and the majority of the ones that havent bought nhl games since 14 will enjoy it since it's not buggy and hard.

 

[FerrisRox]

then dont buy it and the majority of the ones that havent bought nhl games since 14 will enjoy it since it's not buggy and hard.

The game is filled with bugs, but I haven't had any issues with bugs with the controls.

All the new controls did was give you way more control over what you can do, with or without the puck.

It's frankly bizarre you are suggesting that the developers make a change to please the people who haven't purchased the game in a decade. Why would anyone do that?

 

[russ99]

The game is filled with bugs, but I haven't had any issues with bugs with the controls.

All the new controls did was give you way more control over what you can do, with or without the puck.

It's frankly bizarre you are suggesting that the developers make a change to please the people who haven't purchased the game in a decade. Why would anyone do that?

Bought it every year until this year, that's a broken narrative. I got 15 games into a franchise and stopped playing since the core gameplay engine is so broken and scripted to give opponents a chance, even after working hours adjusting sliders and testing to make the game play a little better.

If they let us play like real hockey with zone entries, possession, puck movement, and actual offensive zone linemate plays and defensive zone coverage, rotation and puck acquisition by our AI teammates, each game would be 20-0. Instead the decisive plays that lead to successful hockey (goal scored or not) are on rails. The most frustrating part is seeing the computer opponent do these things but we cannot.

Biggest case in point - any puck brought into the zone is lost when it's even close to an opposing defender, and when the computer team has it in our zone it sticks to them like glue. Forechecking is pretty much non existent unless you spawn checking or stick lift and get hit with penalty after penalty. Adding an edge skating gimmick button press on offense and a cheezy one timer autoscore to "correct this" rather than rework the broken gameplay code is a bad fix. But I guess what's in it for EA as long as the microtransaction dollars roll in.

This isn't bugs, it's a fundamental core part of the gameplay engine and EA would rather slap a new feature than recode it. Praying for an engine switch to Unreal, because then they would have to. Ideally they'd change to a different dev team, like Tiburon who does Madden (has its own issues but at least plays fairly realistically)

They fix this so computer and player teams are on an even playing field and add real AI (you know the thing that's revolutionizing computing today) to the oppositon and our computer-controlled teammates playing hockey than running a script, then I'll buy it. Until then I'll wait to see if they ever fix it and get it for free 4-5 months later when it's a PSN game of the month.

 

[FerrisRox]

Bought it every year until this year, that's a broken narrative. I got 15 games into a franchise and stopped playing since the core gameplay engine is so broken and scripted to give opponents a chance, even after working hours adjusting sliders and testing to make the game play a little better.

If they let us play like real hockey with zone entries, possession, puck movement, and actual offensive zone linemate plays and defensive zone coverage, rotation and puck acquisition by our AI teammates, each game would be 20-0. Instead the decisive plays that lead to successful hockey (goal scored or not) are on rails. The most frustrating part is seeing the computer opponent do these things but we cannot.

Biggest case in point - any puck brought into the zone is lost when it's even close to an opposing defender, and when the computer team has it in our zone it sticks to them like glue. Forechecking is pretty much non existent unless you spawn checking or stick lift and get hit with penalty after penalty. Adding an edge skating gimmick button press on offense and a cheezy one timer autoscore to "correct this" rather than rework the broken gameplay code is a bad fix. But I guess what's in it for EA as long as the microtransaction dollars roll in.

This isn't bugs, it's a fundamental core part of the gameplay engine and EA would rather slap a new feature than recode it. Praying for an engine switch to Unreal, because then they would have to. Ideally they'd change to a different dev team, like Tiburon who does Madden (has its own issues but at least plays fairly realistically)

They fix this so computer and player teams are on an even playing field and add real AI (you know the thing that's revolutionizing computing today) to the oppositon and our computer-controlled teammates playing hockey than running a script, then I'll buy it. Until then I'll wait to see if they ever fix it and get it for free 4-5 months later when it's a PSN game of the month.

This is all nonsense.

What does any of his have to do with going back to the "original" controls?

 

[tucson83]

This is all nonsense.

What does any of his have to do with going back to the "original" controls?

do you play the game at all? or is just about franchise and hut? even then it's freaking slow too, i dont know how you say this is fun when you have to wait almost 2 hours to get through year 1 of franchise mode? you seem like you are just an enabler for ea, that's it.

 

[Gaud]

I think EA should split the game completely instead of trying to make everything the same across the board. Have modes where realism is the focus, and where the game itself would look like something you would see on TV. None of those fortnite-like celebrations, focus on team play and strategies, no features to even the game if it is one sided, just regular real hockey. Have synergies, line synergies if you want.

Then other modes where the focus is on the play of the game and doesnt worry about realism at all. Have all those costumes you want. make it possible for a guy to take his player from one end of the ice to the other without passing hte puck once. Have "equalizers" to make the games more even. Have checks that hits the guy and breks the glass, hit him into his team'S bench, hit him after whistles. Hell! have "hes on fire!" like NBA jam. Make it fun. Let's have zamboni races, or maybe even limit break moves!

The game kind of does this to a degree, but it is like they are just trying to be in between all the time. HUT could be split between HUT Reality and HUT Arcade.

 

[FerrisRox]

do you play the game at all? or is just about franchise and hut? even then it's freaking slow too, i dont know how you say this is fun when you have to wait almost 2 hours to get through year 1 of franchise mode? you seem like you are just an enabler for ea, that's it.

I have never played HUT and I haven't played Franchise in at least ten years. I can't comment on how long it takes you to play Franchise.

I play CHEL, pretty competitively.

Again, I still have no clue what any of what you're saying has to do with a conversation about switching back to the original, basic, control scheme.

How do you think the controls have affected your ability to play Franchise? What the hell are you talking about?

 

[tucson83]

I have never played HUT and I haven't played Franchise in at least ten years. I can't comment on how long it takes you to play Franchise.

I play CHEL, pretty competitively.

Again, I still have no clue what any of what you're saying has to do with a conversation about switching back to the original, basic, control scheme.

How do you think the controls have affected your ability to play Franchise? What the hell are you talking about?

alright what's your issue with going back to basic controls?

 

[ManWithNoName]

For the first ever I’m actually thinking of uninstalling the game. I’ve always played through all the bugs and shit, but NHL 25 doesn’t offer me any joy whatsoever.

There are so many things wrong with this game it’s beyond repair.

 

[belair]

Playing just WOC, this is the best release they've had in years. Control of your player using skillstick is the best its been since 2019 and where you put your stats actually have an impact on how the player performs on the ice.