GDT: NHL 24 Draft Combine June 3-8 NOT the trade, roster or KK thread

[ReHabs]

I was so hot for Sennecke a few weeks ago. Spent a day watching videos. I've cooled after his injury and failure to play in OHL Final and no combine. But, I won't be mad if our scouts reach for him. You know my stance on trusting the pros!

I got hotter on Dickinson and Catton, cooler on Demidov, and don't see the fuss with Sennecke and Lindstrom. So naturally that means they're going with Sennecke or Lindstrom.

I wouldn't be surprised if there's a repeat of last year and even Montreal passes on Demidov.

It's gonna happen and it's perfectly fine. A lot of the 2-10 prospects have aspects to their game (or their positon) that have them stand out in a way Demidov does not. If he were permitted to play in the WJCs or internationally, maybe the calculus would be different.

 

[waitin425]

I got hotter on Dickinson and Catton, cooler on Demidov, and don't see the fuss with Sennecke and Lindstrom. So naturally that means they're going with Sennecke or Lindstrom.

Whatever they do....trust the process buddy! It's easier on the heart that way!

 

[Tyson]

If Silayev hits, he is aggressive enough to be a Chara-like monster. If I was a scout I'd be devouring his videos to make sure I'm not missing something. If you skip on Silayev you better be sure you can justify it.

Dickinson feels like a sure bet too, in his own way.

I feel like Catton won't go at 5, so whoever is left of Silayev, Dickinson, and [next best forward] is my bet. A real BPA situation.


Dickinson goes 2, that means one of Lindstrom, Silayev, Levshunov, and Demidov is available for the Habs to take. Or they go slightly off the board and take Sennecke (a project).

Personally, I'm more confident in Catton (despite his "size issues") than I am with Sennecke (uncertain project) or Demidov (lack of truly elite abilities) or Lindstrom (playmaking/decision making) but I'm clearly in the minority here. Maybe Sennecke has all the tools and the toolbox and this past season was just him putting it together, maybe Demidov can do everything very well and actually can be elite, and maybe Lindstrom's powerful enough to be an impact player in the NHL.

While I like Sennecke I still have thoughts of drafting Michael MaCarron because of his size. Do you pass on a ultra skilled Catton for a bit more size ?

 

[Milhouse40]

As of right now, I am predicting the following.....

San Jose - Mack
Chicago - Dickinson
Anaheim - Levshunov
Columbus - Silyayev
Habs - No clue who we will go with....but it better not be Helenius as Goldenhands predicts!

I was so hot for Sennecke a few weeks ago. Spent a day watching videos. I've cooled after his injury and failure to play in OHL Final and no combine. But, I won't be mad if our scouts reach for him. You know my stance on trusting the pros!

I said it months ago.....Helenius is the less talked candidates on these boards as a potential pick just like Slafkovsky and Reinbacher were......so it will be him

 

[Tyson]

I said it months ago.....Helenius is the less talked candidates on these boards as a potential pick just like Slafkovsky and Reinbacher were......so it will be him

He could be a steal for someone who takes him later in the 1st round

 

[ReHabs]

While I like Sennecke I still have thoughts of drafting Michael MaCarron because of his size. Do you pass on an ultra skilled Catton for a bit more size ?

I wouldn’t draft someone’s who doesn’t demonstrate he can put up points (as is expected for his division/league). But I seem to have gotten it rather wrong with Slafkovsky so who knows. Everything I say is probably worthless.

 

[Kudo Shinichi]

Spoke to some KHL fans, they prefer Michkov to Demidov. Think Michkov's elite in ways Demidov is not. It reinforces my theory that Demidov will drop a fair bit because there are just so many good prospects in the spots 2-10 and Demidov's skills don't seem to stand out as sharply in contrast.

Just saw this which was a bit too generous to Demidov imo. Pronman: How does 2024 NHL Draft prospect Ivan Demidov compare to Matvei Michkov?

No way Demidov falls past the habs unless Lindstrom is also there.

 

[Tyson]

I wouldn’t draft someone’s who doesn’t demonstrate he can put up points (as is expected for his division/league). But I seem to have gotten it rather wrong with Slafkovsky so who knows. Everything I say is probably worthless.

None of us are experts and let's be honest most of us were concerned with Slaf's 10 point season in Liiga.

 

[Scintillating10]

when will things ever be equal?

Lol, I noticed that too. We over stacked on LD. Slim chance we take RD thou

 

[jaffy27]

It's kind of a mix of him looking good at the combine + having good news about his health + Anaheim reportedly considering him + CBJ likely looking for a forward.

Personally I don't think he gets past CBJ.

Habs could always approach Anaheim with a trade proposal for that #3 pick plus Zegras if they really want Lindstrom and believe Columbus would select him.

Would probably take the #5 pick, Colorado pick, 2025 first round pick (CGY), Beck, Mailloux.


Maybe not exactly these players but something along those lines.

 

[jaffy27]

While I like Sennecke I still have thoughts of drafting Michael MaCarron because of his size. Do you pass on an ultra skilled Catton for a bit more size ?

You could be drafting Tage Thompson too…..Catton could turn into a Marner….lots of regular season points and turns into a turnip come the playoffs

 

[FrankMTL]

Dickinson's floor is one of the highest IMO. He is about as safe as safe can be. Pietrangelo level talent. Natural leader as well. Character guy. Who wouldn't want this kid for a deep playoff run in 6-8 years. To answer @ReHabs question.....I think Dickinson surprises everyone and goes off the board second. Chicago would be set with Bedard and Dickinson as their two anchors.

And on top of that Dickinson is a Habs fan (or was growing up anyways). Kid is an absolute beauty.

 

[Beer and Chips]

So, nothing has changed, lol.

 

[26Mats]

I'm glad Basu and Godin are talking about taking the best player avialable, even if it's an LD like Buium or Dickinson.

You can't pass on top talent for current need. I think HuGo will see it this way when it's time to put their chips in the pot.

 

[Andrei79]

Dickinson's floor is one of the highest IMO. He is about as safe as safe can be. Pietrangelo level talent. Natural leader as well. Character guy. Who wouldn't want this kid for a deep playoff run in 6-8 years. To answer @ReHabs question.....I think Dickinson surprises everyone and goes off the board second. Chicago would be set with Bedard and Dickinson as their two anchors.

His ceiling is very high as well. People around here keep making the same mistakes improperly evaluating players like Heiskanen, Sanderson and even Guhle, especially offensively.

 

[JeffreyLFC]

As there ever been a succesful player with Demidov skating style? I think it is a legit concern.

 

[Andrei79]

As there ever been a succesful player with Demidov skating style? I think it is a legit concern.

Which players that didn't succeed with a similar style are you referring to ?

 

[JeffreyLFC]

Which players that didn't succeed with a similar style are you referring to ?

Only name that come to mind with similar skating is Antonio Stranges

 

[dauv]

Only name that come to mind with similar skating is Antonio Stranges

WHO? lol

 

[JeffreyLFC]

WHO? lol

Antonio Stranges Hockey Stats and Profile at hockeydb.com

Statistics of Antonio Stranges, a hockey player from Ann Arbor, MI born Feb 5 2002 who was active from 2018 to 2024.

www.hockeydb.com

 

[Captain Mountain]

100% agree with this part, so why is it so controversial to say that he hasn't produced like a #1 D.

Can't speak for others, but my view is that "produced like a #1 D" doesn't mean anything, because there is no magical cut-off for producing like a #1 D.

 

[japhi]

We've been burned recently by guys that can't skate at the NHL level. If Demidov really has issues with his skating, could very well end up with a Galch or KK. To me skating issues disqualify a player from being a high end pick, it is a fatal flaw.

 

[The Last Red]

While I like Sennecke I still have thoughts of drafting Michael MaCarron because of his size. Do you pass on a ultra skilled Catton for a bit more size ?

A bit more? LOL. 6'3"/6'4" vs. 5'10", 175 lbs.

 

[jaffy27]

We've been burned recently by guys that can't skate at the NHL level. If Demidov really has issues with his skating, could very well end up with a Galch or KK. To me skating issues disqualify a player from being a high end pick, it is a fatal flaw.

Demidov has skating issues?

Ugh……don’t think so

 

[Heffyhoof]

No matter who we pick, I can't wait to see the main board's pompous paragraph posters weave a narrative wherein that prospect actually sucks and all of us are dumbys who just bully them when even 1/50th of us decide to don our radiation suit and join a thread.