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Sometimes “new” and or unknown fears people. I for one welcome the unknown. Yeah, this could be a mistake... but it also might be the best thing the NYR have ever done.

Scotty Bowman had a 1st coaching job in the NHL

What’s the worst that could happen? We might GASP miss the playoffs next year too?

The way I see it the best way to get to the top is to bottom out and KNOW which way is up. Have we bottomed out? Hope so
 
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Tawnos said:
There are people in this world who put their heart into what they're doing simply because that's what they're doing.
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I don't agree. Especially if they're doing it only for the $. Hearts aren't for sale. Effort, time, and souls can be bought. Never the heart. Has nothing to do with Quinn, just wanted to rebut this point.
 
Gresch04 said:
I don't agree. Especially if they're doing it only for the $. Hearts aren't for sale. Effort, time, and souls can be bought. Never the heart. Has nothing to do with Quinn, just wanted to rebut this point.
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Dude, 99% of the people in this world do their job because of the money. Maybe they're interested in the field also, but that's not something I worry about Quinn with. He seems to enjoy being a head coach. And that's not the beef of the people complaining that he's a mercenary. Only with sports do people make caring about a specific employer an issue. How many people in Corporate America really care about their employer and don't just want a well paying job that will put their kids through college? This line of thought I'd honestly expect from someone 12 and under.
 
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East Coast Bias said:
We have the Replacements one win away from the cup finals, and somehow it’s the coaching that’s overrated?
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I think it's both. Coaching absolutely matters for helping people understand their talents and putting them in the best position to succeed. This is part strategy and part inspirations. A great coach builds the system around the players. I also think a coach can overthink the game day x's and o's and overcomplicate things when at home with strategy that really doesn't impact the game as much as they believe it will.
 
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Gresch04 said:
I don't agree. Especially if they're doing it only for the $. Hearts aren't for sale. Effort, time, and souls can be bought. Never the heart. Has nothing to do with Quinn, just wanted to rebut this point.
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You are flat out wrong. It has nothing to do with being for sale. It’s entirely just about natural internal drive.
 
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Also, as has been mentioned the guy being reluctant to move to another city from a cushy job may have 0% to do with how much he likes the Rangers or would appreciate his job. Did you guys never turn down a great job because you'd have to uproot your life?
 
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SnowblindNYR said:
Dude, 99% of the people in this world do their job because of the money. Maybe they're interested in the field also, but that's not something I worry about Quinn with. He seems to enjoy being a head coach. And that's not the beef of the people complaining that he's a mercenary. Only with sports do people make caring about a specific employer an issue. How many people in Corporate America really care about their employer and don't just want a well paying job that will put their kids through college? This line of thought I'd honestly expect from someone 12 and under.
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You're probably right, all kids under 12 say the same. Children have optimism and hope and haven't yet had their souls beaten down by the modern workplace. Only schools have started that terrible process. Regarding work, you're talking about the 70% of employees in the US that are disengaged according to Gallup. They just show up and grind it out. There's much more possible at work. Research in positive psychology has proven that the right workplace culture can make an enormous difference on creativity, innovation and productivity. The reason most companies struggle financially and simply rise and fall with the tides is because they fail to engage their employees and simply survive.

The small minority of companies get it right from top to bottom and they never worry about the economy taking them out. They thrive during the tough times which is rare. Southwest Airlines is the most famous example. Profitable for 45 YEARS IN A ROW. Sales have also doubled from $10B in 2007 to $21B in 2017, so growth went along with it. No other airline has come close. How many airlines have gone out of business over that timeframe? Through how many recessions did they flourish? What about fuel pricing over that time? The only reason for their success is their culture and people. Strategy is the easy part. Culture is everything. I'm actually writing a book on this topic. It's been the focus of my work for 20 years.
 
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Tawnos said:
You are flat out wrong. It has nothing to do with being for sale. It’s entirely just about natural internal drive.
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I'm not sure where we disagree? I'm talking about internal drive not being for sale. You can't buy a person's heart, just their effort and time. Sometimes their soul when they do things they regret later.
 
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the other issue it seems is how would anyone go to a successful program like BU, and you have to continue the success that you're following a legendary coach....
 
Gresch04 said:
You're probably right, all kids under 12 say the same. Children have optimism and hope and haven't yet had their souls beaten down by the modern workplace. Only schools have started that terrible process. Regarding work, you're talking about the 70% of employees in the US that are disengaged according to Gallup. They just show up and grind it out. There's much more possible at work. Research in positive psychology has proven that the right workplace culture can make an enormous difference on creativity, innovation and productivity. The reason most companies struggle financially and simply rise and fall with the tides is because they fail to engage their employees and simply survive.

The small minority of companies get it right from top to bottom and they never worry about the economy taking them out. They thrive during the tough times which is rare. Southwest Airlines is the most famous example. Profitable for 45 YEARS IN A ROW. Sales have also doubled from $10B in 2007 to $21B in 2017, so growth went along with it. No other airline has come close. How many airlines have gone out of business over that timeframe? Through how many recessions did they flourish? What about fuel pricing over that time? The only reason for their success is their culture and people. Strategy is the easy part. Culture is everything. I'm actually writing a book on this topic. It's been the focus of my work for 20 years.
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I'm not saying that some companies don't treat their employees better than others but I think that the deciding factor for most people is money, promotions, or just getting a job. How many people actually go to a company that they hand pick? How many people even have that luxury?
 
SnowblindNYR said:
Also, as has been mentioned the guy being reluctant to move to another city from a cushy job may have 0% to do with how much he likes the Rangers or would appreciate his job. Did you guys never turn down a great job because you'd have to uproot your life?
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I recent tuned down a C-Suite-level position with a pretty big bump in pay because it would have required a ton of travel. And with two kids (one a toddler) and a wife who doesn't like being home alone, it wasn't worth it to me. I've done the travel-heavy, road warrior stuff before but it's not something I would want to do right now. So yeah I can understand not wanting to make a huge, life-altering change like that even if it's something that you're really interesting and want to do.
 
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A coach’s role in today’s NHL is VERY SIMPLE.

-Evaluate the players you have and develop a system around what you have not what you want. Then demand they play your system and if not take away ice time

-Motivation. Get the guys fired up to play. Whatever it takes. (Herb Brooks was great at this)
 
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I recent tuned down a C-Suite-level position with a pretty big bump in pay because it would have required a ton of travel. And with two kids (one a toddler) and a wife who doesn't like being home alone, it wasn't worth it to me. I've done the travel-heavy, road warrior stuff before but it's not something I would want to do right now. So yeah I can understand not wanting to make a huge, life-altering change like that even if it's something that you're really interesting and want to do.
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I went to a business school that was heavy on Management Consulting recruiting. A ton of my friends are in the field. I have no idea how someone won't go insane traveling every week for work.
 
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Alluckks said:
I don't even know what you're getting at?

The guy came in here to say that Quinn sucks and to back it up he posted some youtube highlight video of a single game... okay then.
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It's okay to just not like a coach, I guess. Before the Ottawa series I didn't think most of the anti-AV arguments here were very...good. But there was probably some level of truth to them that I was ignoring
 
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SnowblindNYR said:
Dude, 99% of the people in this world do their job because of the money. Maybe they're interested in the field also, but that's not something I worry about Quinn with. He seems to enjoy being a head coach. And that's not the beef of the people complaining that he's a mercenary. Only with sports do people make caring about a specific employer an issue. How many people in Corporate America really care about their employer and don't just want a well paying job that will put their kids through college? This line of thought I'd honestly expect from someone 12 and under.
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I care more about the job then the money.. so add me to that 1%
 
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Is Gallant proof or that a coach can have a tremendous impact? Why? He has — by far — the best depth in the league. And this league is all about depth. Depth gives you speed.

All shifts matter the same. I always cringe when I see complaints about a player being on like a 4th instead of a 3rd or whatever. It could perfectly be so that it’s more important to have a better 4th than to have a better 2nd. The 4th can be a lot more better than the 4th on the other team.

Not a couple of over the hill vets not really still having it. Not 2-3 kids learning the trade. 20+ guys in their prime pushing each other.
 
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