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[King'sPawn]

How many coaches did ean Lombardi hire?

3 head coaches were hired by Lombardi: Crawford, Terry Murray, and Darryl Sutter. Stevens filled in as an interim head coach for a couple games during the transition from Murray to Sutter

 

[crassbonanza]

For real? You LITERALLY say just above:



Berube has the chance to keep the role as head coach because he did a good job! WD did NOT do a good job, so he is not staying with the organization. Do you seriously think if WD did a fantastic job and was good for the organization, Blake would decide "Well, he's good, but his contract is up so we're going to let him go."

Bob Murray doesn't ****ing count because his ACTUAL job is to be the GM. He didn't go through the process of conducting an interview with himself, deciding he's the best fit for himself, negotiate a contract with himself and define the roles with himself. He didn't set the expectations with himself of "if I do a good enough job, I'm going to be a full time coach." Once Bob Murray actually hires a coach, he can go back to his usual duties.

This is also why Stevens doesn't ****ing count as an "interim coach" Lombardi hired. He was already being paid and hired by the Kings organization as an assistant coach. Lombardi basically needed someone to make sure the players didn't put their jockstrap on backwards for three games, because Darryl Sutter was already hired externally to be the coach.

I don't know how many different ways the clear difference can be established. Rob Blake used company resources to hire someone to perform a particular position. WD did not return results where the organization wants to keep him.

The organization kept Stevens and returned him to his role. They didn't "hire" him to be an interim coach for a few games. He was already under payroll.

The organization will keep Murray because they never hired him to be a coach in the first place. So no, the Ducks didn't "hire and fire" Bob Murray as a coach because he's been ****ing hired as a GM and is getting paid as such. AND HE'S NOT FIRED for his coaching performance!

If WD was hired to be an ice girl and then asked to fill in as a head coach when Stevens got fired until the end of the season, I would 100% agree with you. But he wasn't.

Again, WD was not fired. His contract was on an interim basis that came up at the end of the season. The Kings made it clear the entire time that it was not a permanent hire and that they would be doing a search for a permanent coach during the offseason. I do believe that a GM only gets a few coaching hires. I do not believe that a mid season interim hire should count as one. That's the end of my statement, there really is not much further we can go with this discussion. Blake in my opinion has made one hire, which was a promotion and even then I do believe that was based on a promise made when Stevens acquired the "associate" title during a time when he was sought after as a head coach.

 

[Bandit]

This is where I believe you are being disingenuous, you continue to act as though WD was presented as anything other than a temporary stopgap until Blake could hire a permanent replacement. At no point did WD ever not have an interim tag, there was constant discussions regarding it. When Bob Murray hires a new coach, are you going to count Bob Murray as a hired and fired coach? However, again we are going in ****ing circles.

You ask Anshutz if WD doesn't count. He easily paid north of 50 million in salary to players alone during WD's tenure with the Kings. Pretty sure he "counts".

 

[crassbonanza]

You ask Anshutz if WD doesn't count. He easily paid north of 50 million in salary to players alone during WD's tenure with the Kings. Pretty sure he "counts".

What does player salary have to do with WD being an interim coach?

 

[Reaper45]

As it stretches out im thinking Tmac is less likely.

 

[Scottkmlps]

Was just thinking, what is taking this guy so long?

 

[King'sPawn]

As it stretches out im thinking Tmac is less likely.

TMac no longer a consideration for Buffalo. Looking like he's LA bound.

Edit:

Was just thinking, what is taking this guy so long?

I'm sure there were/are negotiations of contract. If the deal is for five years, as well, you'd have to weigh the options. I know if I had an offer for 5 years to cause me to relocate I'd be having a long talk with my girlfriend.

 

[Reaper45]

TMac no longer a consideration for Buffalo. Looking like he's LA bound.

Squeezed more money out of the Kings by using Buffalo as leverage.

 

[Ziggy Stardust]

So much whining going on.Been a fan since 82 and gone through so much mediocrity. It's a game folks,just a game.If you're jumping ship over this, then fair well.

According to some reactions from the overdramatic, it appears that Todd McLellan is a worse coaching hire than Willie Desjardins.

 

[Ghetty Green]

According to some reactions from the overdramatic, it appears that Todd McLellan is a worse coaching hire than Willie Desjardins.

Still remember the outcry when sutter was hired in 2012. Fans are idiots for the most part.

 

[KingCanadain1976]

 

[Kingspiracy]

So we're getting the stuffed koala

 

[deaderhead28]

You ask Anshutz if WD doesn't count. He easily paid north of 50 million in salary to players alone during WD's tenure with the Kings. Pretty sure he "counts".

Anschutz signed off on these hires and checks.Who cares anyways how much money the owner paid,its not your money.

 

[SettlementRichie10]

Not particularly thrilled with TMac, but ultimately, it’s a pretty inconsequential hire. The Kings wouldn’t be contending for the next few years anyway, not even if Scotty Bowman himself was our coach.

TMac to me will be like Crawford - a veteran bridge coach in the early stages of a rebuild.

 

[BigKing]

Not particularly thrilled with TMac, but ultimately, it’s a pretty inconsequential hire. The Kings wouldn’t be contending for the next few years anyway, not even if Scotty Bowman himself was our coach.

TMac to me will be like Crawford - a veteran bridge coach in the early stages of a rebuild.

That's how I feel, but then you look at a five year deal and think it isn't a bridge thing.

 

[Choralone]

That's how I feel, but then you look at a five year deal and think it isn't a bridge thing.

I think that's the minimum to getting the deal done. A coach is going to look at this roster and say, I need time to succeed while you trade and draft to turn this pile of chicken shit into a chicken salad. And if I get jettisoned earlier, before the roster is on par with the rest of the league, I want that extra money from the buyout to offset the reputation hit I might take for a losing record.

 

[SettlementRichie10]

That's how I feel, but then you look at a five year deal and think it isn't a bridge thing.

Wasn’t Crawford let go before his actual contract ended?

 

[Ziggy Stardust]

The Kings are going to hire Luke Walton.

 

[bouncesonly]

The Kings are going to hire Luke Walton.

Vlade is the GM of the Kings now? That just seems......weird. Didn't he play for the Lakers last season

 

[BigKing]

Wasn’t Crawford let go before his actual contract ended?

Yeah, they can just get rid of him but I'm sure AEG is tired of paying guys to not coach this team. If they aren't, I accept all forms of payment.

Choralone has it as well: the security gets him to choose this deal. It may also signal that they think they need a minimum of two seasons, possibly three, to challenge for a playoff spot. In the meantime, they just want to see improvement. If they aren't on track by Year 3--and definitely Year 4--they can cut him and not have to eat too much in regards to paying him not to coach.

I just don't like this guy's look and always thought he was a little bitch while coaching the Sharks. In that sense, he totally fits in to the current roster.

 

[KingsHockey24]

I like Todd, I think he'll do just fine here.

 

[LAKings88]

It’s strange but I think the team could make the playoffs next year.

I like Luff, Wagner, and Grundstrom.

I like the young defenseman we have.

I think at least one of Vilardi, JAD, or Anderson could improve the team.

Amadio could get a bigger role.

Might have a consistent coaching staff.

I’m guessing it’s playoffs or black hole.

Call me overly optimistic.

 

[Sol]

It’s strange but I think the team could make the playoffs next year.

I like Luff, Wagner, and Grundstrom.

I like the young defenseman we have.

I think at least one of Vilardi, JAD, or Anderson could improve the team.

Amadio could get a bigger role.

Might have a consistent coaching staff.

I’m guessing it’s playoffs or black hole.

Call me overly optimistic.

 

[MxH0CKEY]

You'd be surprised how possible it is to make the playoffs with this roster. You get enough energy mixed with the right system and leadership and you can go far. Take Vegas for example in their last season or MTL this season who just barely missed the playoffs but had 4 lines that were capable of providing offense while still playing decent defense. I think the Kings have a better roster in paper than MTL and will improve this offseason if Blake does what is needed. MTL would have made the playoffs in the West FWIW. Sound goaltending can be a wildcard if Quickie taught us anything in 2012. Binnington is the most recent young goalie to carry his team to the playoffs.

 

[Bandit]

Anschutz signed off on these hires and checks.Who cares anyways how much money the owner paid,its not your money.

Way to completely miss the point. I don't care, but I'm sure Anshutz does, just like I said the first time.