News & Notes XLIII: Cam Ward is a Cute lil 10 Year Old

[DaveG]

https://x.com/i/web/status/1819049702744072384

Waddell just casually leaking his own trade rumors.

let the Laine for Coconut rumors... begin? resume? I'm not even sure at this point lol.

 

[Anton Dubinchuk]

let the Laine for Coconut rumors... begin? resume? I'm not even sure at this point lol.

I get that they had similar seasons from a production perspective last year, but something doesn't feel great about entering the season with Drury as the 2C instead of KK...

Free Necas? Make him a center?

I gotta say, if Necas is allowed to slot in there, the top 6 looks a lot better on paper...

 

[WreckingCrew]

let the Laine for Coconut rumors... begin? resume? I'm not even sure at this point lol.

That doesn't really seem to solve much? You replace a C who gets 30-40 points but "plays the right way" for a guy who scores 70 pts but allows 70 against? Pretty much forcing Jarvy as a 2C and then he'd be flanked by Laine & Roslovic? Poor guy would get run ragged covering for them. Or Laine - Necas - Roslovic, that'd be absolute chaos. KK isn't an ideal 2nd liner but he's at times proven capable. I'd rather keep KK for faceoffs, hope he taps into that early season magic he had last year, and help Jarvis transition to C and have Laine on the LW. Trading even a "potentially kinda" top 6 guy for an all offense-no defense W seems like subtracting by addition + subtraction?

 

[spockBokk]

That doesn't really seem to solve much? You replace a C who gets 30-40 points but "plays the right way" for a guy who scores 70 pts but allows 70 against? Pretty much forcing Jarvy as a 2C and then he'd be flanked by Laine & Roslovic? Poor guy would get run ragged covering for them. Or Laine - Necas - Roslovic, that'd be absolute chaos. KK isn't an ideal 2nd liner but he's at times proven capable. I'd rather keep KK for faceoffs, hope he taps into that early season magic he had last year, and help Jarvis transition to C and have Laine on the LW. Trading even a "potentially kinda" top 6 guy for an all offense-no defense W seems like subtracting by addition + subtraction?

I believe Laine played a good bit with Roslovic as his C a few years ago.

I agree with you that Necas or Roslovic at C seem highly unlikely. The actually need Kotkaniemi at this point for depth, but also don’t see any which way the Canes acquire Laine without sending Kotkaniemi’s cap back.

 

[WreckingCrew]

I believe Laine played a good bit with Roslovic as his C a few years ago.

I agree with you that Necas or Roslovic at C seem highly unlikely. The actually need Kotkaniemi at this point for depth, but also don’t see any which way the Canes acquire Laine without sending Kotkaniemi’s cap back.

Send them Staal

 

[Anton Dubinchuk]

It'd be:

Laine - Aho - Jarvis
Svech - Necas - Roslovic

Again, if Necas (or Roslovic) can play center, this is a perfectly respectable and perhaps even very good top 6. But that is a huge gigantic "if" that probably won't come to fruition. I hope it does.

 

[Borsig]

Laine makes what 9.1 for the next 2 years?

f*** that even at 50%. 4.5M for him comes from where? I mean we bridge Jarvis I guess but.... Jarvy deserves more unless we can bridge him for 2 and extend him a year early. IDK.

 

[Nikishin Go Boom]

It'd be:

Laine - Aho - Jarvis
Svech - Necas - Roslovic

Again, if Necas (or Roslovic) can play center, this is a perfectly respectable and perhaps even very good top 6. But that is a huge gigantic "if" that probably won't come to fruition. I hope it does.

i dont see either playing center, both are bad at it. they are both wingers, who arent good defensively, and arent great FO guys either.

 

[Unsustainable]

Laine makes what 9.1 for the next 2 years?

f*** that even at 50%. 4.5M for him comes from where? I mean we bridge Jarvis I guess but.... Jarvy deserves more unless we can bridge him for 2 and extend him a year early. IDK.

Sending KK back saves 300k if we get Laine at 4.5m

I would run:
Svech - Aho - Necas
Laine - Jarvis - Roslovic

Jarvis has that Center potential with how he sees the ice.

 

[Nikishin Go Boom]

what is crazy is if we run a 20 man roster we could fit Laine in with 2 million in retention, Fast on LTIR, and Jarvis at a 1 year 5.5 million deal, with a whopping 25k to spare. use that emergency call up to not count against the cap.

its not feasible but interesting

 

[WreckingCrew]

Sending KK back saves 300k if we get Laine at 4.5m

I would run:
Svech - Aho - Necas
Laine - Jarvis - Roslovic

Jarvis has that Center potential with how he sees the ice.

Again, that's putting way too much on Jarvis to try and cover Laine & Roslovic's defensive lapses while also trying to learn to be a C at the NHL-level

Also, what significant add are we giving Columbus? ...because they'd be effectively paying KK like $9.3M for 2 years with the cap retention, that doesn't make much sense for them without a huge add and doesn't make sense for us to add

 

[hblueridgegal]

 

[bleedgreen]

That was interesting to watch. They both seemed a little annoyed with the interviewer at times, and both seemed to be wanting to be hanging out with their friends more than talking to him. I’m sure I’d feel the same way. Koochie thinks he can be number 1 but knows he has to earn it and seemed a little frustrated he only played one game in the playoffs, as he should be. Not in a bad way, I’m sure it’s fuel for this year.

Orlov definitely thinks Kuzy could still play in the league and says he didn’t know it was coming that he was leaving. Mentioned everyone being disappointed they didn’t go further in the playoffs. I’m really curious to see how he handles being back in the top four this season, as he came to us as an arguably top pair guy. He wasn’t used to playing a quiet third pair role and clearly wanted to impact the game more. I agree with Koochie that Orlov was very good in the playoffs.

 

[spockBokk]

https://x.com/i/web/status/1819820645200306246

 

[HisIceness]

https://x.com/i/web/status/1819820645200306246

I appreciate Tony's 21-22 season here but I'm glad we're moving on and not giving him a "pity" contract.

 

[spockBokk]

I appreciate Tony's 21-22 season here but I'm glad we're moving on and not giving him a "pity" contract.

Outside of the first few weeks of the disaster that was the Orlov-DeAngelo pairing, I thought his 2nd stint with the team was fine. Not the same offensive catalyst he first was, but they didn’t need him to be. He was an ideal 6-7D for last year’s version of the team.

Agree, no room left at the inn now with Walker signed and Morrow next in line. Glad they seemingly are going with a Stillman, Ryan or Ty Smith as their 7D this year.

 

[chaz4hockey]

Kuzy article; states he had an autoimmune disease:

https://thehockeynews.com/nhl/washington-capitals/takes/washington-capitals-evgeny-kuznetsov-health-isuees-player-assistance-program

 

[Chrispy]

Kuzy article; states he had an autoimmune disease:

https://thehockeynews.com/nhl/washington-capitals/takes/washington-capitals-evgeny-kuznetsov-health-isuees-player-assistance-program

I’m shocked he was able to play for the Canes at all if that’s what he was dealing with earlier in the season.

Andersen’s comeback was one thing. Kuznetsov coming off RA medication and able to play at all is miraculous.

 

[Svechhammer]

Outside of the first few weeks of the disaster that was the Orlov-DeAngelo pairing, I thought his 2nd stint with the team was fine. Not the same offensive catalyst he first was, but they didn’t need him to be. He was an ideal 6-7D for last year’s version of the team.

Agree, no room left at the inn now with Walker signed and Morrow next in line. Glad they seemingly are going with a Stillman, Ryan or Ty Smith as their 7D this year.

Heard from some people who would know that Tony burned bridges with the coaches this year. Part of the reason he was flipped for Chatty earlier this year wasn't because of his play, but because he was a complete dick and they just had enough of it.

Was basically outright told that he would not be welcome back with the team anytime soon. That relationship is dead and buried.

 

[bleedgreen]

Heard from some people who would know that Tony burned bridges with the coaches this year. Part of the reason he was flipped for Chatty earlier this year wasn't because of his play, but because he was a complete dick and they just had enough of it.

Was basically outright told that he would not be welcome back with the team anytime soon. That relationship is dead and buried.

I don’t know if I’m buying that. I could see him chafing at not playing like others have in the past here and that he wanted out like others would and some have (Pesce struggled with his new role under Rod) later in the season.

He was playing awful in that pairing and we were all begging for that pairing to be broken up. Begging. They were a nightmare. I struggle to believe for a second the reason they were broken up was because Tony pissed someone off vs the awful defense that had become indefensible even amongst us.

If he was as bad as you make it sound Rod wouldn’t let him get through the entrance to the rink.

 

[Blueline Bomber]

I’m shocked he was able to play for the Canes at all if that’s what he was dealing with earlier in the season.

Andersen’s comeback was one thing. Kuznetsov coming off RA medication and able to play at all is miraculous.

See, I have doubts about this story.

If he was dealing with that kind of pain constantly and apparently attempted to tell the Caps medical staff/GM/whoever (and I suppose the Canes as well, though he never mentioned them), why would they ignore him? And the medical staff never noticed that he was self-medicating or only sleeping 2 hours a night? And I don't know much about RA, but to my understanding, it's not something that just "gets better" to the point where you can go off medication for months at a time.

A lot of his statement doesn't really add up.

 

[Chrispy]

See, I have doubts about this story.

If he was dealing with that kind of pain constantly and apparently attempted to tell the Caps medical staff/GM/whoever (and I suppose the Canes as well, though he never mentioned them), why would they ignore him? And the medical staff never noticed that he was self-medicating or only sleeping 2 hours a night? And I don't know much about RA, but to my understanding, it's not something that just "gets better" to the point where you can go off medication for months at a time.

A lot of his statement doesn't really add up.

I tend to agree. Looking back, my skepticism didn't come through at all with the use of "miraculous."

Not to mention that RA would be a legitimate reason to put Kuznetsov on LTIR, which would be an easier way for Washington to deal with that contract.

 

[Lempo]

Heard from some people who would know that Tony burned bridges with the coaches this year. Part of the reason he was flipped for Chatty earlier this year wasn't because of his play, but because he was a complete dick and they just had enough of it.

Was basically outright told that he would not be welcome back with the team anytime soon. That relationship is dead and buried.

That's a... peculiar turn of events for someone who is reported to be liked well by his teammates.

 

[Svechhammer]

I don’t know if I’m buying that. I could see him chafing at not playing like others have in the past here and that he wanted out like others would and some have (Pesce struggled with his new role under Rod) later in the season.

He was playing awful in that pairing and we were all begging for that pairing to be broken up. Begging. They were a nightmare. I struggle to believe for a second the reason they were broken up was because Tony pissed someone off vs the awful defense that had become indefensible even amongst us.

If he was as bad as you make it sound Rod wouldn’t let him get through the entrance to the rink.

I mean they are people who would absolutely know and I have no reason to doubt what they were saying. I was a little surprised as well

 

[AD Skinner]

because he was a complete dick and they just had enough of it.