News & Notes XLII: Consolidation Season

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Boom Boom Apathy

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In 89, the Wings drafted 8 guys who barely/never played in the NHL.

McCosh: 9 games
Zygulski, Suhy, Jones, Bignell, Judson, Frederick, Glickman: 0 games

Not sure why people are so impressed by that.
 

Derailed75

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I’m not on Twitter but holy shit is the comment section for this post on Instagram ever disappointing.
I can't see any of it as forums are the only social media I use. With that being said I dont know anyone personally in the LGBTQ+ and any other letters I'm missing community and will be honest in saying some of it I truly don't understand. By why can't people just ignore the stuff they don't agree with and let people live their lifes?
 

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In 89, the Wings drafted 8 guys who barely/never played in the NHL.

McCosh: 9 games
Zygulski, Suhy, Jones, Bignell, Judson, Frederick, Glickman: 0 games

Not sure why people are so impressed by that.
Sillinger (1st)-Lidstrom (3rd)-Federov (4th) played 3,861 games, personals 7 cups and a big bucketful of goals.

Ignore the misses…those 3 represent a great draft
 

Borsig

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I can't see any of it as forums are the only social media I use. With that being said I dont know anyone personally in the LGBTQ+ and any other letters I'm missing community and will be honest in saying some of it I truly don't understand. By why can't people just ignore the stuff they don't agree with and let people live their lifes?
because they are not libretarians.

Conversely, they don't want sexuality stuff shoved in their face.

Look EVERYTHING is political these days, and lets face it, gay people are trying to shove it in your face and demand acceptance, or else. Don't agree and you'll be shamed and ridiculed. Do we treat other people in other lifestyles that way? Swinger pride? Furry Pride? Sorry not sorry but it's true. I don't care either way, but that's why you get the comments. I work with a openly gay, married to a guy individual and he and his partner both hate this sort of thing.

"Treat us like everyone else, but also we are special and an outlier and like our thing we are shoving in your face or you're a bigot or some kind of "ist". That's exactly why you get the comments.

Just like this post. How dare I not be on board with the thing and give reasons why people make those comments. Clearly I am enabling, and not an ally and should be shamed and scolded. Never mind that the vast majority of the people that support that thing are at complete odds with nearly every thing I believe. Since I am not speaking up in support, clearly I must be against, right?
 
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Derailed75

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because they are not libretarians.

Conversely, they don't want sexuality stuff shoved in their face.

Look EVERYTHING is political these days, and lets face it, gay people are trying to shove it in your face and demand acceptance, or else. Don't agree and you'll be shamed and ridiculed. Do we treat other people in other lifestyles that way? Swinger pride? Furry Pride? Sorry not sorry but it's true. I don't care either way, but that's why you get the comments. I work with a openly gay, married to a guy individual and he and his partner both hate this sort of thing.

"Treat us like everyone else, but also we are special and an outlier and like our thing we are shoving in your face or you're a bigit or some kind of "ist". That's exactly why you get the comments.
Or some gay person made a special jersey for Pride night, but because in the words of George Thorogood "it dont confront me" you ignore it and move on with your life.
 

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I’m not on Twitter but holy shit is the comment section for this post on Instagram ever disappointing.

Twitter's comments are better overall, but there are the bad eggs, of course. Loved the guy that's got the handle "Trust the science" talking about how unnatural homosexuality is, when anyone with any kind of scientific knowledge knows it's all chemicals in the brain. Heterosexuality, homosexuality, bisexuality, whathaveyou, it's all brain chemicals.
 

Borsig

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Or some gay person made a special jersey for Pride night, but because in the words of George Thorogood "it dont confront me" you ignore it and move on with your life.
Perhaps they would, if said group wasn't known for provoking confrontation. Im not advocating for either side. I'm a libretarian, I want gay married people to be able to defend their pot plants with machine guns. I'm just giving legitimate reasons why some people feel inclined NOT to do so.

Some people fly flags to provoke. The colors and meanings may be different, but the intent to provoke is the same.
 

LakeLivin

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I can't see any of it as forums are the only social media I use. With that being said I dont know anyone personally in the LGBTQ+ and any other letters I'm missing community and will be honest in saying some of it I truly don't understand. By why can't people just ignore the stuff they don't agree with and let people live their lifes?

Tell the truth, are you a closet Toronto Maple Leaves fan? :sarcasm:

Sorry, I'll show myself out!
 

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Perhaps they would, if said group wasn't known for provoking confrontation. Im not advocating for either side. I'm a libretarian, I want gay married people to be able to defend their pot plants with machine guns. I'm just giving legitimate reasons why some people feel inclined NOT to do so.

Some people fly flags to provoke. The colors and meanings may be different, but the intent to provoke is the same.

It’s late, and I’m not 100% on the history of the entire thing, but to my understanding, the beginning of the “Pride” movement was with Pride parades, and they were done in a time where homosexuality was marginalized even more than it is today. It was that group’s way of trying to enact change by showing that not only is there nothing to fear from them or their way of life, but to also show that they are much more commonplace than what was believed at the time.

And while society, on the whole, has gotten better about accepting homosexuality and those who practice it, it’s still a marginalized community in many ways. And those who are part of the TQ+ part of LGBTQ+ are still struggling to find even a fraction of the original acceptence.

So the flags will continue to wave, because the original reason behind waving them still applies. And that reason isnt to ”provoke” anything beyond basic human decency.
 

Lempo

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I'm just going to say, as long as they're going to continue letting in the guy in the section next to me who wears a 'F BIDEN' jersey every game, I really don't give much of a crap about the thought of the pride jerseys being worn to provoke others.
Would you like the house gorillas to come grab him by shoulder and say "let's go, Brandon"?
 

Borsig

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It’s late, and I’m not 100% on the history of the entire thing, but to my understanding, the beginning of the “Pride” movement was with Pride parades, and they were done in a time where homosexuality was marginalized even more than it is today. It was that group’s way of trying to enact change by showing that not only is there nothing to fear from them or their way of life, but to also show that they are much more commonplace than what was believed at the time.

And while society, on the whole, has gotten better about accepting homosexuality and those who practice it, it’s still a marginalized community in many ways. And those who are part of the TQ+ part of LGBTQ+ are still struggling to find even a fraction of the original acceptence.

So the flags will continue to wave, because the original reason behind waving them still applies. And that reason isnt to ”provoke” anything beyond basic human decency.
Oh there are those that absolutely wave them to provoke others. No doubt about it. Both sides do it.
 

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I still love that everyone at the time was calling us idiots for that trade despite the fact that we had close to 20M in unused cap space before we made that trade.
Also a big big thanks to the Blue Jackets as them beating the Leafs in the play-in round is what resulted in the pick being so high. Leafs would've just been a normal playoff team if not for the covid bubble format. Also I have already convinced myself that the Leafs wouldn't have lost that play-in if not for being demoralized earlier in the year by Dave Ayres.
 

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Oh there are those that absolutely wave them to provoke others. No doubt about it. Both sides do it.

What might be “provoking” to some would not be considered as such to others.

I know when I was in college, there’d be weekly visits to campus from some evangelical group, who’d spend their time condemning passerbyers to hell. Most found them hilarious, others were provoked by their outbursts. Likewise, said evangelical group was often provoked by passerbyers engaging in…let’s say public displays of affection…, which was done simply to draw a reaction from said evangelic group

In a similar vein, if a store displays a rainbow flag out front, for example, I imagine most people would not take offense to such a thing. Others, however, would find that offensive and assume the store was trying to provoke a response from them.
 

Daeavorn

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I think calling them 'marginalized" isnt quite fair at this point. Gay people and gay culture is everywhere now in our society.

This isn't exactly the 1950s anymore. Right now gay people have exactly the same rights as everyone else, can marry, can adopt, even have kids whatever.

I dont see the need more it anymore except to rub in peoples faces. And that is why you are starting to see a backlash on the internet.
 

Svechhammer

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I think calling them 'marginalized" isnt quite fair at this point. Gay people and gay culture is everywhere now in our society.

This isn't exactly the 1950s anymore. Right now gay people have exactly the same rights as everyone else, can marry, can adopt, even have kids whatever.
....for now

There's a lot of legislation being pushed through various states right now with explicit aim to limit those rights, just like we've seen them go after women's rights in recent years.
 
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