News From Around the League - Part XXXIX

[njdevils1982]

o'reilly 2013 is the derek morris of 2001.

delusions of grandeur. **** them both.

 

[apice3*]

Can't trade him until next year

And I'm pretty sure the 2014 trade deadline is less than one calendar year away, so they won't be able to trade him until he's an RFA again. We're in for a round 2.

Likely just be a perfectly timed coincidence - they were not playing well.... at all.
They let in 2 goals in the first 5 minutes, something like 30 seconds apart.

There was a coincidence earlier in the season. Howson was fired within minutes of Rick Nash's filthy assist to Hagelin from his back. I just picture the Blue Jackets owner watching the Ranger game, watching Nash do what he did, and just looking at Howson "you're fired. get out."

 

[DevilChuk*]

And I'm pretty sure the 2014 trade deadline is less than one calendar year away, so they won't be able to trade him until he's an RFA again. We're in for a round 2.

I think it's one league year, not calendar year.. could be wrong though.

 

[Chessarmy]

Colorado should have just let O'Rielly go, I think sitting out for this much of the regular season must not be good for the locker room morale

 

[davebenj]

o'reilly 2013 is the derek morris of 2001.

delusions of grandeur. **** them both.

Yeah I can see your point. I can understand the situation but O'reilly hasn't exactly come across that great at least in my opinion.

 

[Chessarmy]

I hope they just switch Columbus/Winnipeg and ditch this whole re-alignment BS. Also wish they'd talk about shortening the season a bit, 82 games is way too long. I think 60 would be a great number

 

[Bleedred]

Tom Gulitti ‏@TGfireandice

Flames made team that's one point behind them in standings better this season by signing O'Reilly to offer sheet. (Why teams don't do it)

That's a good point from Gulitti. If they let it be then O'Reilly would still be sitting out. Now a team they're fighting with gets a player to make it's team better because of this.

I wouldn't expect anything different from Feaster. This idiot out in Denver isn't too much better. Although it was Sherman who hired Joe Succo, and gave him an extension.

 

[hlaverty06]

Tom Gulitti ‏@TGfireandice

Flames made team that's one point behind them in standings better this season by signing O'Reilly to offer sheet. (Why teams don't do it)

That's a good point from Gulitti. If they let it be then O'Reilly would still be sitting out. Now a team they're fighting with gets a player to make it's team better because of this.

I wouldn't expect anything different from Feaster. This idiot out in Denver isn't too much better. Although it was Sherman who hired Joe Succo, and gave him an extension.

I really don't expect O'Reilly to 'tear it up' when he comes back, he'll probably be a ***** about it

 

[CerebralGenesis]

To be fair those terms were reportedly more than what colorado was willing to sign him for. If anything Feaster should have added another year at a high price to scare them off even more. Very gutsy move but it was one I'd make more often than not if you're Calgary.

ROR is a machine. Definitely gonna be on my fantasy squad.

 

[Richer's Ghost]

To be fair those terms were reportedly more than what colorado was willing to sign him for. If anything Feaster should have added another year at a high price to scare them off even more. Very gutsy move but it was one I'd make more often than not if you're Calgary.

ROR is a machine. Definitely gonna be on my fantasy squad.

That's why it's insanity they matched the offer sheet. They INSTANTLY matched it for more than they were willing to pay? Then why pay it? Take the picks and run. It's dumbfounding they would basically with a swipe of the pen say we were just being stubborn idiots, here's your new payday and we wasted all this time for not.

Epic facepalm for Colorado in the end. Calgary simply made a grab for what they don't have, and looks like won't for a while the way they're running things.

 

[DEVILS ALL THE WAY*]

That's why it's insanity they matched the offer sheet. They INSTANTLY matched it for more than they were willing to pay? Then why pay it? Take the picks and run. It's dumbfounding they would basically with a swipe of the pen say we were just being stubborn idiots, here's your new payday and we wasted all this time for not.

Epic facepalm for Colorado in the end. Calgary simply made a grab for what they don't have, and looks like won't for a while the way they're running things.

Couldn't agree more.

Sherman looks like a grade A idiot for actually paying RoR more money then he actually wanted, after standing firm for close to what, 6 months now?

 

[CerebralGenesis]

I agree.

It's ok cause I'm still bitter about 2001 so they can flounder around all they want.

 

[Richer's Ghost]

What would you do if you were an RFA now with the Avs? Hahaha. Thanks Calgary.

 

[downtown56]

@RealKyper: Hearing #NHL #NHLPA will soon announce an agreement in principle on realignment. Players appear comfortable enough moving forward.

 

[New Jersey Devils]

@RealKyper: Hearing #NHL #NHLPA will soon announce an agreement in principle on realignment. Players appear comfortable enough moving forward.

Gross.

 

[DEVILS ALL THE WAY*]

What would you do if you were an RFA now with the Avs? Hahaha. Thanks Calgary.

Call Feaster and work out some type of offer sheet, only to have it matched within the next 24 hours.

Way to go young buck... Getting paid, getting paid (Calvin at WackArnold's)

 

[RandoDoomer]

@RealKyper: Hearing #NHL #NHLPA will soon announce an agreement in principle on realignment. Players appear comfortable enough moving forward.

I'm starting to feel like a crotchety old man, pining for the good ol' days of division names, ties, 22 teams, no cockamamie shootouts or trapezoids, no lockouts every 5 years, commissioners without their heads up their butts, etc. etc.

The one thing I don't miss is the two-line pass rule.

 

[Richer's Ghost]

I'm starting to feel like a crotchety old man, pining for the good ol' days of division names, ties, 22 teams, no cockamamie shootouts or trapezoids, no lockouts every 5 years, commissioners without their heads up their butts, etc. etc.

The one thing I don't miss is the two-line pass rule.

you miss the clutch and grab - admit it.

 

[MauDevils]

So...if Colorado didn't match, O'Reilly would have needed to clear waivers to play for Calgary?

 

[Emperoreddy]

So...if Colorado didn't match, O'Reilly would have needed to clear waivers to play for Calgary?

Yepp that is the long and short of it. So they would of lost those two draft picks, and may of never got him either. Might not of happened, but still damn what a risk

 

[DEVILS ALL THE WAY*]

So...if Colorado didn't match, O'Reilly would have needed to clear waivers to play for Calgary?

- The Avalanche would've gotten a 1st and a 3rd from Calgary
- The Flames would've had to put O'Reilly on waivers to have him in their lineup
- The BlueJackets would've picked up O'Reilly for free off the waiver wire
- The entire hockey world would be pissing in their pants about the entire debacle

If Sherman would've waited just a extra day, when he had a entire week to decide if he wanted to match or not, instead of responding within a couple of hours... he'd be in the driver's seat like you wouldn't believe. He'd have Feaster by the balls and that's a understatement right there.

 

[Brodeur]

- The Avalanche would've gotten a 1st and a 3rd from Calgary
- The Flames would've had to put O'Reilly on waivers to have him in their lineup
- The BlueJackets would've picked up O'Reilly for free off the waiver wire
- The entire hockey world would be pissing in their pants about the entire debacle

If Sherman would've waited just a extra day, when he had a entire week to decide if he wanted to match or not, instead of responding within a couple of hours... he'd be in the driver's seat like you wouldn't believe. He'd have Feaster by the balls and that's a understatement right there.

Apparently this has been debunked. The CBA changed with regards to RFAs:

A late-night email from NHL deputy commissioner Bill Daly confirms that O'Reilly would be the first case under the newly amended rules if and when he returns to the NHL this season. Daly wrote, "No, he would not be subject to waivers. He would have been under last year's rules, but that was changed in collective bargaining."

Edit: Or maybe not. Reading makes my brain hurt.

Edit #2: Making a rival look foolish while making your team worse probably isn't the greatest motivation. The draft picks are nice, but outside of the 4-5 blue chip guys, I'm not sure there's a guy that's a slam dunk to be better than O'Reilly.

 

[DEVILS ALL THE WAY*]

Apparently this has been debunked. The CBA changed with regards to RFAs:



Edit: Or maybe not. Reading makes my brain hurt.

Edit #2: Making a rival look foolish while making your team worse probably isn't the greatest motivation. The draft picks are nice, but outside of the 4-5 blue chip guys, I'm not sure there's a guy that's a slam dunk to be better than O'Reilly.

I'm with you on that one... I'd rather go with a sure thing like RoR over a prospect any day of the week but still, the compensation Colorado would've gotten wasn't worth it at all and that's probably why Sherman matched.

 

[NJDevs26]

So...if Colorado didn't match, O'Reilly would have needed to clear waivers to play for Calgary?

If only they weren't so quick to announce they matched and this came out, maybe they let him go and take picks for free, sticking O'Reilly on Columbus (who's on their way out of the West) in the process

God, this thing was botched so badly on both sides really both GM's should be fired. Especially Feaster. They didn't even make a serious enough pitch to ensure Colorado didn't match, all they did was basically expose Colorado as hypocrites for not wanting to pay him - until they had to.

 

[Nick0930]

Man, it would've been hilarious if Colorado picked him up off waivers, as unlikely as it would've been for him to go unclaimed up to their turn. Free draft picks AND they get O'Reilly.