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Chapin Landvogt said:
The Athletic published an article on the cap situations, from best to last.


The Islanders are ranked dead last in the league.:laugh:

Here are few points:
- Among the fewest wins in the league
- 3rd last in goals per game
- Brutally poor special teams
- Pricey goaltending tandem that produce league average stats
- Among the oldest rosters in the league
- Committed w/ term to several of the worst overpayments
- Tough RFA calls coming
- Top 2 scorers, who are under several of the better contracts, to become well-paid UFAs soon

Kind of feels like this write-up was written a few games ago.
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What’s the weighting of Dobson’s Gaffes Against costing the Isles probably 7 points so far this year (let alone the number from last year)?
 
Throttle said:
Let me clarify, for all the hype of Carolina, they haven’t even made the finals and have had some debilitating conference finals exits.

So, they are very good in the regular season bc their style of play works in that environment. It has not yet translated into a finals appearance. But, they’ll try again with the same style.
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This is how hockey and life in general works. They consistently give themselves a legitimate shot. That's pretty much all you can ask. The idea that you have a good team and you should do a "different" style based on some abstract concept of what "works" and what doesn't in variable and uncontrolled environments is shortsighted and fannish. I feel like antipathy towards a team like Carolina is based on in/outgroup bias and sour grapes. 80% of the league should be so lucky as to be as good as they've been over the last half decade.
 
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Chapin Landvogt said:
The Athletic published an article on the cap situations, from best to last.


The Islanders are ranked dead last in the league.:laugh:

Here are few points:
- Among the fewest wins in the league
- 3rd last in goals per game
- Brutally poor special teams
- Pricey goaltending tandem that produce league average stats
- Among the oldest rosters in the league
- Committed w/ term to several of the worst overpayments
- Tough RFA calls coming
- Top 2 scorers, who are under several of the better contracts, to become well-paid UFAs soon

Kind of feels like this write-up was written a few games ago.
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Ahhhh, The Athletic is the Nate Silver of Hockey . . . :naughty:
 
Richie Daggers Crime said:
This is how hockey and life in general works. They consistently give themselves a legitimate shot. That's pretty much all you can ask. The idea that you have a good team and you should do a "different" style based on some abstract concept of what "works" and what doesn't in variable and uncontrolled environments is shortsighted and fannish. I feel like antipathy towards a team like Carolina is based on in/outgroup bias and sour grapes. 80% of the league should be so lucky as to be as good as they've been over the last half decade.
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There’s a lot that goes into winning the Cup, one can also say matchups play a strong part. The Steelers won two super bowls in recent times (conveniently they didn’t have to play the Pats).

I think Carolina’s style can be countered in a series (there’s proof that is true) vs. the randomness of the season. Their core also struggles to deliver when it matters.

FL played a similar style, nice regular seasons, then augmented their players and how they played when they felt it wasn’t going to work - they went to back to back finals with a Cup win. Vegas changed their mix. They won. EDM did, but failed in Game 7. Errr…Toronto really hasn’t and…

Carolina seeks to continue to go to the well with the same style and players - so far, it hasn’t translated into deeper runs and winning the Cup. One can argument embarrassing exits.
 
Throttle said:
Carolina seeks to continue to go to the well with the same style and players - so far, it hasn’t translated into deeper runs and winning the Cup. One can argument embarrassing exits.
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There's other things to consider as well. They're in the east, which a tougher road to go through than the west, where half the teams suck. They're in a non-trad market with certain competitive disadvantages, similar to the Islanders. They lose talent through attrition. You mention Florida and Vegas... they have greater leverage to acquire players and they utilize it.

Biggest issue with them is that they seem to be missing a goalie that can go on a run.

All of those things are valid. I guess I don't see why there seems to be this disdain of them.
 
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Richie Daggers Crime said:
There's other things to consider as well. They're in the east, which a tougher road to go through than the west, where half the teams suck. They're in a non-trad market with certain competitive disadvantages, similar to the Islanders. They lose talent through attrition. You mention Florida and Vegas... they have greater leverage to acquire players and they utilize it.

Biggest issue with them is that they seem to be missing a goalie that can go on a run.

All of those things are valid. I guess I don't see why there seems to be this disdain of them.
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I agree goaltending is what is holding them back
 
Seguin done, hip injury gonna be tough for playoffs. DAL gets LTIR and gonna need a forward for a deeper run. Juicy…
 
Zeeker said:
If Trouba was an Islander, we’d have to trade a 1st to get rid of his contract.

The Rangers can put him on waivers and get some random team to take on his salary
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More likely a trade, according to Rosner/Friedman tweets. The waivers are to send Trouba a message that he's done one way or another. They pointed out the Todd Marchant trade, where waivers were used so the acquiring club would claim Marchant when he wouldn't waive his contract terms.
 
Trouba and a 1st for Neal Pionk? :sarcasm:

Friedman suggested that if Trouba doesn't waive his NTC the NYR can put him on waivers and the team that wanted him can then claim him.
 
Pretty shocking news about Buffalo:

"Sabres general manager Kevyn Adams told the media that Buffalo is "not a destination city" at the moment."

www.tsn.ca

Sabres GM Kevyn Adams: 'We're not a destination city right now' | TSN

With his team sitting under the .500 and out of a playoff spot, Sabres general manager Kevyn Adams told the media that Buffalo is "not a destination city" at the moment.
www.tsn.ca www.tsn.ca
 
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Zeeker said:
If Trouba was an Islander, we’d have to trade a 1st to get rid of his contract.

The Rangers can put him on waivers and get some random team to take on his salary
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I would glady take Trouba on the isles for 1 more year if I can offload Mayfield and/or engvall's 6 years!
 
doublechili said:
Pretty shocking news about Buffalo:

"Sabres general manager Kevyn Adams told the media that Buffalo is "not a destination city" at the moment."

www.tsn.ca

Sabres GM Kevyn Adams: 'We're not a destination city right now' | TSN

With his team sitting under the .500 and out of a playoff spot, Sabres general manager Kevyn Adams told the media that Buffalo is "not a destination city" at the moment.
www.tsn.ca www.tsn.ca
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And Kevyn Adams doesn’t inspire confidence in anyone either, so a double whammy.
 
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Zeeker said:
If Trouba was an Islander, we’d have to trade a 1st to get rid of his contract.

The Rangers can put him on waivers and get some random team to take on his salary
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Wait 'til the Rangers target some star with their new found cap space and get him for pennies on the dollar because they're the Rangers.
 
Looks like the Rags spent all their Trouba saving on that Shesterkin contract. As an Isles fan I like it because that is way too much to pay a goalie, even one of Shesterkin’s caliber. I’ve been critical of Isles giving Sorokin 8.5 or so, but that’s a steal compared to this one.
 
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Including this season, Trouba has 2 years left at $8M/yr. He’s a liability.

Anders Lee has 2 years left at $7M/year. He’s a leader and producing at a decent clip.

Who here thinks that we could unload Lee without any retention and get a fourth round pick and a player whose salary we could bury?

It’s a rhetorical question. Somehow the league and other teams bend over backwards to accommodate the Rags. F’n ridiculous.
 
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