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MJF said:
The NHL is considering changes in 3 on 3 OT. One thing is they're thinking of instituting a shot clock in order to prevent circling back past the red line. That would destroy Mat Barzal's approach to 3 on 3s :laugh::laugh::laugh:
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NHL reportedly considering rule changes surrounding its 3-on-3 overtime format

The NHL is discussing adding NBA-esque rules like a shot clock or something resembling a half-court violation to prevent players from circling back in OT.
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I hate everything about what they're doing with extra time. They still need to change the point structure but they won't. Regulation wins need to count for more points than OT wins or losses.

Lek said:
Welp...until you put proper value on a win, it matters littler how OT plays out as it is a bit of a sham as is. Matters little what you do in OT or how you play it as the point structure now is. Would be a big difference how many teams play out the last 5-10 minutes of a game if they lost a point by not winning in regulation...and wold make the season more exciting.

Essentially, as is, i do not have to win in regulation to get 2 points = a bit of a sham, whether 3 on 3, with re-setting, not re-setting, shot clock or or shoot out.
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They have so many options too. Just pick one and go with it. Three point games are dumb.

Regulation win = 3 points
OT/SO win = 2 points
OT/SO loss = 1 point

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Regulation win = 5 points
OT win = 4 points
SO win = 3 points
OT loss = 2 points
SO loss = 1 point

(this results in 6 point games so would need to be fixed, give zero points for a SO loss I guess)
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Regulation win = 2 points
OT/SO win = 1 point

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Win = 2 points
Loss = 0 points
 
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PK Cronin said:
I hate everything about what they're doing with extra time. They still need to change the point structure but they won't. Regulation wins need to count for more points than OT wins or losses.



They have so many options too. Just pick one and go with it. Three point games are dumb.

Regulation win = 3 points
OT/SO win = 2 points
OT/SO loss = 1 point

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Regulation win = 5 points
OT win = 4 points
SO win = 3 points
OT loss = 2 points
SO loss = 1 point

(this results in 6 point games so would need to be fixed, give zero points for a SO loss I guess)
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Regulation win = 2 points
OT/SO win = 1 point

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Win = 2 points
Loss = 0 points
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Nah, too complicated. But you’re sentiments about OT is correct.

W = 3points

After 60 minutes if you’re tied, then the game is a tie. Each team splits a point…

T = 1point each

Overtime is then played with alternating full two minute PP. Whoever has the most goals after a set, wins the OT. It’s not sudden death. Also get rid of the shoot out all together.

W = 3 points
L = 0 points
T = 1 point per team (two points split)
OT = 1 point (or the remaining 3rd point)

The good thing about this PP scheme, is that it already exists in the context of an actual game. Seems less “gimmicky” to me.

What will be cool, is when a team is forced into a position of having to go for it on the PK. The dynamic will surely result in games not being too long.
 
CupHolders said:
Nah, too complicated. But you’re sentiments about OT is correct.

W = 3points

After 60 minutes if you’re tied, then the game is a tie. Each team splits a point…

T = 1point each

Overtime is then played with alternating full two minute PP. Whoever has the most goals after a set wins. It’s not sudden death. Also get rid of the shoot out all together.

W = 3 points
L = 0 points
T = 1 point per team
OT = extra point.

The good thing about this PP scheme, is that it already exists in the context of an actual game. Seems less “gimmicky” to me.

What will be cool, is when a team is forced into a position of having to go for it on the PK. The dynamic will surely result in games not being too long.
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I don't think they'd do that simply because you're increasing the likelihood of injury and that's a big sticking point for why OT is only 5 minutes. The players don't want to get hurt playing in extra time so shot blocking on the PK would never get approved.
 
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MJF said:
The NHL is considering changes in 3 on 3 OT. One thing is they're thinking of instituting a shot clock in order to prevent circling back past the red line. That would destroy Mat Barzal's approach to 3 on 3s :laugh::laugh::laugh:
www.yahoo.com

NHL reportedly considering rule changes surrounding its 3-on-3 overtime format

The NHL is discussing adding NBA-esque rules like a shot clock or something resembling a half-court violation to prevent players from circling back in OT.
www.yahoo.com www.yahoo.com
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I feel like this would just mean a lot more people yelling “Shoooooot!”
 
gordie43 said:
Why not do a push up contest to decide? They can implement anything they want coaches will find a way to exploit it. I know I prob sound like a grumpy old man but why not just let games end in a tie?
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MJF said:
The NHL is considering changes in 3 on 3 OT. One thing is they're thinking of instituting a shot clock in order to prevent circling back past the red line. That would destroy Mat Barzal's approach to 3 on 3s :laugh::laugh::laugh:
www.yahoo.com

NHL reportedly considering rule changes surrounding its 3-on-3 overtime format

The NHL is discussing adding NBA-esque rules like a shot clock or something resembling a half-court violation to prevent players from circling back in OT.
www.yahoo.com www.yahoo.com
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Of all the things for these idiots to change
 
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MJF said:
Tighten the LTIR loophole. That would be a good place to start.
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The owners don’t want to do it, it’s a safety valve for each owner/GM. And honestly, it works in the players favor bc it adds more available salary to the mix.
 
Throttle said:
The owners don’t want to do it, it’s a safety valve for each owner/GM. And honestly, it works in the players favor bc it adds more available salary to the mix.
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Just because it works to the financial benefit of all parties involved doesn't mean they won't change it! :sarcasm:
 
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PK Cronin said:
I don't think they'd do that simply because you're increasing the likelihood of injury and that's a big sticking point for why OT is only 5 minutes. The players don't want to get hurt playing in extra time so shot blocking on the PK would never get approved.
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Absolutely true. NHLPA would absolutely push back on games going past the 5m mark. I was speaking more out of what my ideal compromise would be as a fan. Rather than taking account the vested interests of NHL and NHLPA.

I just do not like the whole… play a game 5on5, then do 3on3, then shooter on goalie. Just as gimmicky as you can get. At least a special teams competition, still stays somewhat in the spirit of an actual NHL game.

But at the very least, I say do the 3,2,1 point system.

W = 3 points
L = 0 points

T = 1 point each. After 60min if you’re tied, then you tied.

OT = 1 point to the team that wins 3-3 or shootout.

One team walks away with 2 of the 3 points, the other team gets the leftover point. There’s no screwing over the rest of the league with “manufacturing” an extra point, as they do now.
 
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CupHolders said:
Absolutely true. NHLPA would absolutely push back on games going past the 5m mark. I was speaking more out of what my ideal compromise would be as a fan. Rather than taking account the vested interests of NHL and NHLPA.

I just do not like the whole… play a game 5on5, then do 3on3, then shooter on goalie. Just as gimmicky as you can get. At least a special teams competition, still stays somewhat in the spirit of an actual NHL game.

But at the very least, I say do the 3,2,1 point system.

W = 3 points
L = 0 points

T = 1 point each. After 60min if you’re tied, then you tied.

OT = 1 point to the team that wins 3-3 or shootout.

One team walks away with 2 of the 3 points, the other team gets the leftover point. There’s no screwing over the rest of the league with “manufacturing” an extra point, as they do now.
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Just turn the clock off until someone scores. It will rarely go beyond 10 min. That eliminates the shootout. And the 3-2-1-0 system makes most sense.
 
BrockLobster said:
Just turn the clock off until someone scores. It will rarely go beyond 10 min. That eliminates the shootout. And the 3-2-1-0 system makes most sense.
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I've thought this too. I personally have to think that 3-on-3 would eventually lead to a goal 90% of the time within ten minutes or less. But NHLPA AND NHL (because of TV broadcasters) would still not be keen on the other 10%.

However, 3-on-3 and with some possible shot clock leading to more attempts and subsequent goals or possession changes; should really bring those games to a quick enough conclusion.
 
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CupHolders said:
I've thought this too. I personally have to think that 3-on-3 would eventually lead to a goal 90% of the time within ten minutes or less. But NHLPA AND NHL (because of TV broadcasters) would still not be keen on the other 10%.

However, 3-on-3 and with some possible shot clock leading to more attempts and subsequent goals or possession changes; should really bring those games to a quick enough conclusion.
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What is the consequence of a shot clock violation? Is it a full two minute powerplay, or does the other team just get possession behind their net, like at lunch/pick up hockey? I think a full powerplay would suck, and possession change would be Busch league.
 
MJF said:
This applies to the Islanders too. The team is broken. I'm waiting for Malkin Ledecky, and Lamoriello to acknowledge it.


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Good PR move I guess. He was also the one that went all in on keeping Jake Allen as their goalie, which cost the team prime years since he was noticeably weak.

He got lucky with Binnington, but then signed a one hit wonder to a grenade contract and, again, undermined a strong team with making that move which has led to the team to this ‘rebuild.’

A bunch of their top players also wanted out during this period and have left. So, praise the guy for the situation he caused. Clap, clap, clap.

Armstrong is a product of Jon Davidson, lots of executive spinmeistering going on with ownership.
 
Throttle said:
Good PR move I guess. He was also the one that went all in on keeping Jake Allen as their goalie, which cost the team prime years since he was noticeably weak.

He got lucky with Binnington, but then signed a one hit wonder to a grenade contract and, again, undermined a strong team with making that move which has led to the team to this ‘rebuild.’

A bunch of their top players also wanted out during this period and have left. So, praise the guy for the situation he caused. Clap, clap, clap.

Armstrong is a product of Jon Davidson, lots of executive spinmeistering going on with ownership.
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I guess you don’t care for the way that was handled either. What would you recommend Armstrong do?
 
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