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Post-Game Talk: New York Rangers at Los Angeles Kings |Game 1| 6/4/14

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Talk about Red herrings, nobody is blaming Hank for the loss. Good god he could have played the first one better, the 2nd and 3rd happen during the course of a game playing elite (Doughty) player and/or clutch (Doughty/Williams) players. It's annoying reading about people defending him ad nauseam against some phantom segment of Rangers fans.
 
I'm glad we have an extra day off. Need time to review what was working and what wasn't.

- Rangers looked best when they were simply getting the puck deep, forechecking, and shooting from everywhere.

- Forcing cross-ice passes in the vicinity of the slot is going to be EXTREMELY low % against this Kings team. They're not Montreal.

- PK was great, face-offs were great. Don't change a thing.

- Don't try to force shots on Quick's glovehand if the shot isn't there, (i.e. Pouliot's goal).

- Skate. Forcheck. Shoot. Skate. Forcheck. Shoot. The Kings have trouble with chaos in the D-zone; forcing passes and overcomplicating strategy plays right into their hands.

- GET IN FRONT OF QUICK.

- Stop being lazy buffoons in the D-zone.

- Staal sucks.

tl;dr - Keep it as simple as possible, in EVERY zone.
 
FOD said:
I will save everybody on this board a lot of time. The Rangers suck, everybody on the Rangers suck, the forwards suck, the defense sucks, Lundqvist sucks, AV sucks! The The Rangers have no heart, they are a bunch of talent less scrubs. There, I think that covers it. No need to comment anymore.
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Everyone sucks except for Nash because he does other things.
 
Son of Steinbrenner said:
My perception of the game if I were a Kings fan is:

I think the Rangers were dominated for most of the game. If I was a Kings fan, I would be a little worried that after that performance the Kings HAD to win in overtime. I know that doesn't mean anything, but I would worried that Lundqvist is going to get in the Kings heads. I would be worried that the Kings are going to continue to give the puck away to a speedy team.

Am I just trying to grasp for anything positive a day after the game? I probably am.

Now, as a diehard Ranger fan:

I think it's crazy to blame Hank for last night's loss. Most of the Rangers played bad. He was one of the few guys to show up. That Stepan giveaway in the 1st period wasn't on Lundqvist. Doughty made an unbelievable play on his goal. Girardi gave the puck away and had ZERO support in the defensive zone on the game winner. How can anybody with a ****ing brain blame Hank for that game? It's gotta be guys just trolling, right? It just has to be. I just wish the posters that post this garbage would refrain from doing so during the Stanley Cup Final. You have 50 other weeks of the year to troll the posters you hate. Doing it now, a day after the 1st final game for this franchise in 20 years? Such ********.

Look, I would be the 1st person say Hank gave up a soft goal if he did. He was perhaps the only Ranger to show up in the 3rd period of a Stanley Cup Final game. That's the real problem last night.

I think game 2 might be the perfect storm for a Ranger win. The Kings might go into game 2 overconfident (who can blame them) while the Rangers SHOULD go into the game desperate. It might add up to the Kings coming out flat and the Rangers could capitalize. My recipe for the Rangers winning this series was splitting the one of the first two games and winning at home. Going into the series I honestly felt like winning game 2 is more important in the "split" formula than winning game 1. Why? Because I believe that long plane ride is horrible for a team coming off a loss. It's also a great plane ride for the team winning. The Rangers coaching staff and veteran players need to drill into the teams heads that they saw the Kings best in the last game and only lost by 1 goal...in overtime. If the Rangers can elevate their game, they have a good shot of winning. I think the Rangers will do just that.

Maybe I'm way off with my feelings about last night and the start of the series. I just think last night could've been 6-2 Kings, and it wasn't. A loss is a loss, but that loss last night might end up being the wake up call the Rangers needed in the series.
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A voice of reason that'll probably be lost in the shuffle of the bickering and Lundqvist hating.

The Rangers played like dog **** and were lucky it even got to OT. It got there thanks to Lundqvist. Quick wasn't tested at all.

The Kings have had a unsustainably high shooting percentage all playoff long. They scored on just about every error we made. That won't happen again.

Win Game 2 and the entire complexion of the series changes. The extra day off to practice will help us.
 
They have to play mistake free hockey. Not enough guys are stepping up.Too many bystanders.
Nash, Richards, Stephan and MSL aren't our best players. They have to be. The third period was a joke. That's on AV as well. A lag here and there is expected.
They did nothing to win in the third.


Lundqvist stole an entire third period and however long in the third. They stopped skating. Why after 5 days rest? That keeps happening for long durations in games and this will be a short series



They pissed away game 1 by not playing a full 60. They should be getting screamed at. Unacceptable. Lundqvist doing everything but score for this team.
This is the SCF for crying Out loud!!!
 
RidinwitdaKING said:
Why didn't Girardi play it to the left side with 3 Kings on the right or bank it behind his net to the other side. Really Poor now that I have rewatched this.
Who was he trying to pass this puck to? It looks like he is going up the middle to Justin Williams! Unbelievable.

http://video.nhl.com/videocenter/console?catid=35&id=623575
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If Girardi just paused the game, went to the locker room, and replayed the then future event in slo-mo 10-15 times, we wouldn't even be having this conversation!

Girardi sucks with streaming media!
 
nyhockeyfan said:
Callahan would have been very helpful against their forecheck but I guess haters gonna hate.
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Fantastic, but totally irrelevant. Like Callahan, Nash refuses to set up plays. Instead, he prefers to try his patented and useless spin move that everyone including the ticket checkers at the gate know is coming. Plays DIE on his stick, the same way they did on Callahan's stick. Does that make me a Callahan hater? If so, it's fine with me. If it bothers you, I don't know why. Later.
 
RidinwitdaKING said:
Why didn't Girardi play it to the left side with 3 Kings on the right or bank it behind his net to the other side. Really Poor now that I have rewatched this.
Who was he trying to pass this puck to? It looks like he is going up the middle to Justin Williams! Unbelievable.

http://video.nhl.com/videocenter/console?catid=35&id=623575
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It was a comedy of errors, the other 4 players anticipated a break out pass. On the initial pass the puck jumped over the stick, I don't know what he was thinking after he fell. It was terrible on so many levels but then again that described the entire team after the 2nd.
 
Fire Sather said:
Tundra is here soley to bash the Rangers, its hysterical.
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But he (or she?) is doing it with intelligence and truth. Unfortunately for us, the truth hurts. But the other truth is that the Devs have gotten great at their golf game. :sarcasm:
 
Guys, for the millionth time, if someone is breaking rules, report them, and it will be dealt with. If they're not breaking any rules, and you can't deal with it, add them to your ignore list.

McRanger said:
The Rangers were the better team in the 1st period. Lundqvist made a huge stop early but after that the Kings were mostly limited to low percentage plays and the Rangers whiffed on a lot of prime scoring chances. The Rangers also passed up on a ton of shots. They had double the amount of scoring chances but should have had double the amount of shots as well.

I thought the 2nd was pretty even. Though you could see a noticeable dip in Rangers play, especially skating.

The wheels came off in the 3rd. They were short handed most of the first 5 minutes and never seemed to get into a groove. The Kings could have scored a few times.

I dont think the situation is as grim as some make it out to be. The Rangers need to shoot more. They passed up some decent shot opportunities. And when presented with a prime scoring chance they need to at least force Quick to make a save. No more missing by 5 feet or flubbing the shot.

Move your legs. Get shots on net. Dont take moronic penalties. Dont make moronic plays in the defensive zone. Its not complicated.
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This x infinity.
 
The Rangers were the better team in the 1st period. Lundqvist made a huge stop early but after that the Kings were mostly limited to low percentage plays and the Rangers whiffed on a lot of prime scoring chances. The Rangers also passed up on a ton of shots. They had double the amount of scoring chances but should have had double the amount of shots as well.

I thought the 2nd was pretty even. Though you could see a noticeable dip in Rangers play, especially skating.

The wheels came off in the 3rd. They were short handed most of the first 5 minutes and never seemed to get into a groove. The Kings could have scored a few times.

I dont think the situation is as grim as some make it out to be. The Rangers need to shoot more. They passed up some decent shot opportunities. And when presented with a prime scoring chance they need to at least force Quick to make a save. No more missing by 5 feet or flubbing the shot.

Move your legs. Get shots on net. Dont take moronic penalties. Dont make moronic plays in the defensive zone. Its not complicated.
 
Jersey Girl said:
I think this is part of what's really disconcerting here - last night seemed like just another Kings playoff game, many of which have been remarkably similar to last night. Just plug in different uniforms for their opposition.

We need to break that mold - turn 2-0 into 3-0, hold onto 2-0 and shut them out, take the play to them in the third period instead of vice versa - something.

Otherwise we are just another opponent fitting into the Kings formula for winning.
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Gotta wonder how different that game would have been if Dom Moore was on the same page as MSL during that drive to the net in the first.

The Rangers looked fatigued in the third. Jet lag maybe? I'm still not all that impressed by the Kings. The game didn't feel like the domination suggested by the shot totals. It certainly didn't feel like a hang on and pray shooting gallery like a lot of playoff games felt under Torts.

The Rangers can win this. They really can.
 
Xref said:
But he (or she?) is doing it with intelligence and truth. Unfortunately for us, the truth hurts. But the other truth is that the Devs have gotten great at their golf game. :sarcasm:
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Truth. Can't argue with that statement.
 
You know what else would have been glorious? If AV called a timeout halfway through the 3rd period to get the team back on track.

I hate second guessing this type of thing but when a team is being dominated and running around with its head up its ass... what else should a coach do?
 
McRanger...

the situation isn't that grim, as you say. The third period performance is worrisome, but hopefully there's good reason to think we won't see that again (I'm making jet lag excuses, as in the start feels more like an 11pm start for them, but we shall see). The Rangers played an average game and almost came away with the win. The Kings are beatable. Again, the extra day off, I think, favors the Rangers; let's hope they figure things out and use it to their advantage.
 
McRanger said:
I dont know how you responded to my post a minute before I posted... but I am in awe of your power.
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Auf resides outside of time and space. :nod:

Totally agree though. That was a very winnable game for us. Like I said, I'm glad they have an extra day off to review and make adjustments.
 
McRanger...

timeouts are key, but in a tight game like that you may want to save it for the final two minutes, just in case. I'm guess AV had the sense that the next goal could be the winner, and if the Rangers get it, he'd want that TO so his team can ice the puck in the last minute and give the players on the ice a rest. I think you use the timeout when you give up a couple straight goals, not in a tie game in which you're being out-skated. I do see what you're saying though. Kings came out in the third and got their groove on. Rangers weren't prepared.
 
Aufheben said:
I thought McDonagh, Stralman, Pouliot, and Hagelin brought their best (besides Hank). That's not nearly enough.
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Agreed...but there's nothing about last night that makes me feel less confident than I was at 7:59 PM EST yesterday.They lost Game 1 in OT. I didn't expect a sweep...in fact, it's the Rangers (and the Kings) and you should be expecting a long series.

BTW - Go Kings Go annoys the crap out of me. :p:

LGR!!!!
 
tbonenc said:
Hey, what do you know, a voice of reason.

Hank was not to blame, nor was he blameless, for last night's loss.

More of the blame goes to not putting the game away when we had the opportunity. Some of it was Quick making big saves and some was the team not finishing.

At the end of the day, they still had a chance to win it in OT, until that speed bump popped up behind Girardi.
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You seem like a mellowed version of Snowblind, who I have not noticed recently.
 
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