NFL: New York Jets Fire Robert Saleh

[Marco 85]

Saleh didn’t have the pull to fire Hackett.

 

[DoyleG]

Rogers feared for his life.

 

[PanniniClaus]

Rodgers needs to talk to Jets employees and players about why he made this move, makes sense to move until tomorrow.

 

[Donnie740]

The Jets have the fewest rushing yards per game in the NFL. They have the 3rd fewest yards per attempt.

That's not going into how RBs aren't expensive, either in FA or in the draft.

That's not excellent offensive weapons. That's one weapon, and two backs who may be good behind a good run blocking line, but clearly aren't difference makers.

That’s why you have to actually watch the games instead of just looking at the stat sheet, my friend.

Hall and Allen are a tremendous duo at RB.

 

[Terry Yake]

Rodgers is the most overrated QB of all time

how so?

he's definitely not as overrated as guys like elway or aikman

 

[Romang67]

That’s why you have to actually watch the games instead of just looking at the stat sheet, my friend.

Hall and Allen are a tremendous duo at RB.

Alright, I have had the unfortunate displeasure of watching two Jets games this season. Their running game was atrocious. What now? Should I go and check out the Broncos game to be blown away by their tremendous duo?

 

[hockey20000]

lets see how smug rodgers is on pats show tomorrow

 

[EpochLink]

https://x.com/i/web/status/1843723100464332801

Sure Jan.

I smell bullshit from the word go.

 

[DaaaaB's]

how so?

he's definitely not as overrated as guys like elway or aikman

Yeah, I don't think he's overrated at all. I do think he's arrogant jackass and that may cause fans to underrate him in the future if it hasn't already.

 

[Blackhawkswincup]

Rodgers is fairly overrated

Doesn't mean he isn't a HOF, etc but the reality is like Favre his legacy contains alot of him "Failing or disappointing" but people refuse to acknowledge his failings and blame everyone but him

Now that Favre isn't in good graces now people finally point out him being overrated and his failings. Maybe someday same will happen with Rodgers

 

[Blitzkrug]

Rodgers is fairly overrated

Doesn't mean he isn't a HOF, etc but the reality is like Favre his legacy contains alot of him "Failing or disappointing" but people refuse to acknowledge his failings and blame everyone but him

Now that Favre isn't in good graces now people finally point out him being overrated and his failings. Maybe someday same will happen with Rodgers

We already know that we can just disregard your opinion about quarterbacks given your arguments in the past.

Favre also isn't overrated btw.

 

[HisIceness]

Friendly reminder that Adam Gase was not fired in season.

I think the Jets should re-hire him

Is there any NFL organization more dysfunctional than the J-E-T-S JETS?

Panthers and Browns might be close.

Panthers definitely up there

 

[Spring in Fialta]

Yeah, I don't think he's overrated at all. I do think he's arrogant jackass and that may cause fans to underrate him in the future if it hasn't already.

It definitely already has. Guy's a top-5 QB of all-time and I don't even think that's arguable. He's had an insane career.

 

[StreetHawk]

Yeah, I don't think he's overrated at all. I do think he's arrogant jackass and that may cause fans to underrate him in the future if it hasn't already.

Not overrated based on his talent. Based on expectations given his talent, he's under delivered. Too many home PO losses. Plus in later years, he doesn't appear to want to put in the effort in the off-season to improve his and the team's chances of winning by building up the rapport with the WR group.

 

[Scotianhab]

Hall/Allen is a great RB duo. Shitty plain offense which the opposing defenses can predict their next plays make it hard for them to get going. I doubt Barkley would be much better in this offense and behind this O-line.

 

[Jersey Fresh]

The Jets have the fewest rushing yards per game in the NFL. They have the 3rd fewest yards per attempt.

That's not going into how RBs aren't expensive, either in FA or in the draft.

That's not excellent offensive weapons. That's one weapon, and two backs who may be good behind a good run blocking line, but clearly aren't difference makers.

Breece Hall could have very easily won offensive rookie of the year over Wilson if not for his ACL injury. You’re miles off base. And they have talent on the O-line with Vera-Tucker and Fashanu, as well as their vets.

The problem is their schemes are terrible and that’s on Hackett. They have Breece Hall running up the middle where admittedly they’ve gotten very little win from their line, and then bouncing Braelon Allen outside when it should be the exact opposite. They had a 1st and goal at like the two against Denver and ran Hall twice into the teeth of the Broncos goal line defense. Hackett needs to be lobotomized, but there are things to work with on that side of the ball.

 

[JESSEWENEEDTOCOOK]

Rodgers is fairly overrated

Doesn't mean he isn't a HOF, etc but the reality is like Favre his legacy contains alot of him "Failing or disappointing" but people refuse to acknowledge his failings and blame everyone but him

Now that Favre isn't in good graces now people finally point out him being overrated and his failings. Maybe someday same will happen with Rodgers

rodgers isnt overrated anymore. everyone in the media has spent the whole day shitting on him. he’s completely destroyed his reputation at this point

i think we can say bro aint gonna go out like montana lol

 

[Romang67]

Breece Hall could have very easily won offensive rookie of the year over Wilson if not for his ACL injury. You’re miles off base. And they have talent on the O-line with Vera-Tucker and Fashanu, as well as their vets.

The problem is their schemes are terrible and that’s on Hackett. They have Breece Hall running up the middle where admittedly they’ve gotten very little win from their line, and then bouncing Braelon Allen outside when it should be the exact opposite. They had a 1st and goal at like the two against Denver and ran Hall twice into the teeth of the Broncos goal line defense. Hackett needs to be lobotomized, but there are things to work with on that side of the ball.

Breece Hall wasn't consistently a great runner last year. This year he's dreadful. Could be the scheme. Could be the O-line. Could be him. Might be a mix of all three. But let's say Breece Hall is fantastic. Cool. You've got him for another year if you become the Jets head coach next year. Then you're probably not extending a running back past year 4, because people just don't.

Allen was drafted in the 4th round, and looks like a RB drafted in the 4th round. He's fine. Next draft, you can spend another 4th round pick on an RB, and he will also be fine. Maybe you'll hit and he'll be more than fine.

Fashanu is potentially good. He wasn't a great run blocker in college, and that hasn't changed. Right now he looks like a rookie OT, meaning he's dreadful.

Vera-Tucker is very good.

The argument isn't that the entire Jets offensive side of the team is shit. It's that a potentially-good-in-the-future-but-not-right-now tackle, a very good guard, and a running back duo that's part of the worst performing running team in the NFL hardly is alluring for the best offensive minds in the game. If Breece Hall were the 5th best running back in the league, that would still not be an actual reason to pick them for their offensive game. It's just not a game deciding position in 2024.

Why would Slowik or Johnson go there? So they can have no one throw the ball to Garrett Wilson, and maybe get a run game going?

 

[Blitzkrug]

https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/...getting-his-own-pink-slip-from-woody-johnson/

Tell me again how Rodgers didn't have anything to do with this.

 

[Terry Yake]

Not overrated based on his talent. Based on expectations given his talent, he's under delivered. Too many home PO losses. Plus in later years, he doesn't appear to want to put in the effort in the off-season to improve his and the team's chances of winning by building up the rapport with the WR group.

not really all on him though. his playoff numbers are insanely good

his defenses and poor coaching are more to blame for GB's playoff shortcomings

 

[Unholy Diver]

Rodgers might have had a hand in Saleh getting fired, or maybe he didn't, but either way Saleh didn't really do that much to keep his job either, he had the lowest winning % of any Jets coach to be in charge for at least 40 games and 3rd worst of anyone ove 15 games behind Gase and Kotite, they didn't exactly fire Don Shula.

 

[EpochLink]

Hackett's play calling is ass water at best, Rodgers should just bite the bullet and let him go. The offence stinks.

 

[Romang67]

Rodgers might have had a hand in Saleh getting fired, or maybe he didn't, but either way Saleh didn't really do that much to keep his job either, he had the lowest winning % of any Jets coach to be in charge for at least 40 games and 3rd worst of anyone ove 15 games behind Gase and Kotite, they didn't exactly fire Don Shula.

Keeping Hackett, especially with the rumors that Saleh was going to fire him and the owner meeting with Rodgers the day before, is a much bigger issue than firing Saleh, IMO. Regardless of WHY the Jets kept losing these past seasons, I think it's difficult to keep the team motivated when they go through this much winning. Doesn't sound like Saleh was the guy to do that, either.

 

[Breakers]

This organization is a disaster

 

[CokenoPepsi]

how so?

he's definitely not as overrated as guys like elway or aikman

You have people trying to argue him as a GOAT candidate though that has quieted down a bit in recent years.

I mean he obviously great just not in that conversation