Line Combos: New lineup??

[Fogelhund]

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[JT AM da real deal]

Just 4 pads at Ford isn't it? Pad 3 for the Marlies and 4 the Leafs. I was out there around playoff time, they pulled the curtain on 4 and had security at the door, top secret stuff at playoff time lol..

They have an Olympic size rink where i saw my sisters daughter skate in Team Canada tryouts and then Marlie and Leaf pads on 1 side .. and then 3 other pads with regular size ice on other side which da leagues rent out .. so total 6 pads .. Leaf pad was dark .. Marlie pad was open and my guess is TO guys were skating whether Leafs, Marlies or Growlers

Do you happen to remember the other lines?

I was only there for a few minutes to see if I knew anyone .. a couple familiar faces in sports science and training and one was my buddy so really talking to him about my kids hockey and his kids hockey

 

[Squiffy]

They have an Olympic size rink where i saw my sisters daughter skate in Team Canada tryouts and then Marlie and Leaf pads on 1 side .. and then 3 other pads with regular size ice on other side which da leagues rent out .. so total 6 pads .. Leaf pad was dark .. Marlie pad was open and my guess is TO guys were skating whether Leafs, Marlies or Growlers

Right right, I can picture it now, not at that one a ton, and usually just rink 1.

 

[Mitch nylander]

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Not ideal.

 

[LeafEgo]

We are going to have a player with jam on all four lines this year, along with the heavyweight champ. Wouldn't call us a big tough team, but its refreshing and will help with the extracirculars. A different look forsure.

Hopefully Knies pops this year and can play L2, preferably with JT and Marner, and we can run Matty, JT, Domi, Kampf down the middle.

 

[jaric1862]

So are they running a 20-man roster?
I don’t see how this is sustainable for the entire year.

 

[Deebo]

So are they running a 20-man roster?
I don’t see how this is sustainable for the entire year.

They'll probably end up having to use emergency recalls during the year again.

 

[thusk]

Not bad, but why put the player who led the team in ES goals and points last year (second in both goals and assists at 5v5), and who was listed as the sixth best passer in the league, on the third line?

Only fans see it like line 1, line 2, line 3... coach dont see it that way

My forward lines for some depth:

Bertuzzi - Matthews - Jarnkrok
Bertuzzi is a pretty good playmaker and will open a lot of space for Matthews. I liked Jarnkrok beside Matthews last season.

Knies - Tavares - Marner
I think Tavares is at his best when he plays with Marner. Knies would also benefit from Marner's vision and passing, though he can create chances on his own.

Domi - Kampf - Nylander
Kampf should be able to make up for Nylander and Domi's defensive flaws. Domi and Nylander should make light work of their matchups here.

Lafferty - X - Reaves
Could not think of anything good for this line. Ideally, I'd have Nylander playing slightly longer shifts to limit Reaves' ice time. So Nylander would be playing third line minutes + some fourth line minutes + PP time.

Rielly - Brodie
I like Brodie with Reilly. The best D partner we've ever paired with him imo.

McCabe - Klingberg
Brodie might be necessary to cover for Klingberg's atrocious defence, but we'll see if McCabe can handle the load.

Gio - Liljegren
I liked this pairing in Gio's first season with us. Seems like he has lost a step a bit so we'll see if he can handle this role still.

Timmins

Look extremely similar to mine, the only difference for me was switch knies and Jarnkrok

 

[ToneDog]

Only fans see it like line 1, line 2, line 3... coach dont see it that way



Look extremely similar to mine, the only difference for me was switch knies and Jarnkrok

I don't think it is a good idea to play both on their off wings.

 

[thusk]

I don't think it is a good idea to play both on their off wings.

I dont think thats really matter..

Jarnkrok played all season on their off wing and had his best carreer season...

The reason

Knies-Matthews-Knies

Get a big powerful line extremely hard to handle physicaly with high forecheck and driving the net

Jarnkrok-Jt-Marner

Line with marner driving the offensive zone puck contril with jarnkrok-Jt finishing marner play

Domi-Kampf-Nylander

A fast line who can be extremely dangerous in counter attack off the rush where nylander and Domi are at their best. With Kampf to bring a defensive mind on that line

 

[SHANNYPLAN]

Bertuzzi - Matthews - Marner
Knies - - Tavares - - Nylander
Domi - - - Kampf - - - Jarnkrok
McMann - - Lafferty - - Reaves

Rielly - Liljegren
McCabe - Brodie
Giordano - Klingberg

 

[Gallagbi]

So are they running a 20-man roster?
I don’t see how this is sustainable for the entire year.

I think we've started the last few years at 20 men, got an injury that allowed a little space and just progressed from there

 

[notDatsyuk]

Bertuzzi - Matthews - Nylander
Knies - Domi - Marner
Tavares - Kampf - Jarnkrok

 

[Gilles Meloche]

Nobody thinks Dylan Gambrell will show enough to maybe be the teams 4th line center??

 

[smitty10]

Bertuzzi-Matthews-Marner
Robertson-Tavares-Nylander
Knies-Domi-Jarnkrok
Lafferty-Kampf-Reeves
Holmberg

Rielly-Brodie
McCabe-Klingberg
Giordano-Liljegren
Benoit-Timmins

Samsonov
Woll

 

[DragoGrizzly]

Nobody thinks Dylan Gambrell will show enough to maybe be the teams 4th line center??

I think a lot of it is who do you take out to put in the lineup. Robertson is the only one I think has to “make the team”. Then if it’s Robertson Gambrell is replacing, then you’d have to weigh whether Gambrell is a better option than Holmberg.

 

[Nineteen67]

Bertuzzi-Matthews-Marner
Robertson-Tavares-Nylander
Knies-Domi-Jarnkrok
Lafferty-Kampf-Reeves
Holmberg

Rielly-Brodie
McCabe-Klingberg
Giordano-Liljegren
Benoit-Timmins

Samsonov
Woll

They’ll have to waive someone to be compliant.

 

[TMLBlueandWhite]

In response for the need to run a short roster due to the core four sucking up so much cap space I recommend the following three line rotation:

Knies/Matthews/Domi
Bertuzzi/Tavares/Jarnkrok
Nylander/Kampf/Marner
*Holmberg, Reaves

If hockey is a strong link game they should be splitting the talent up anyway.

Let the big shots show why they're worth so much. See who's an anchor and who's an engine. Splitting them up and having them drive their own lines is the only way it makes sense for the money they're demanding.

The only thing sticking these guys together has resulted in so far is them sticking it to the team.

I really wonder how good Marner and Nylander would do without a top centre. Those two studs should be able to make even Kampf into a thirty goal scorer for what they're demanding to get paid. If they can't carry their own line they aren't worth the bigs bucks.

None of them are.

 

[crump]

Bertuzzi. Matthews. Nylander
Knies. Tavares. Marner
Robertson. Domi. Jarnkrok
Lafferty. Kampf. Reeves

Rielly-Brodie
McCabe-Klingberg
Giordano-Liljegren

I see the last forward position up for grabs (Robertson, Holmberg, Gambrell, McMann, Steeves all have a shot.)

Marner really helps Tavares imo, Nylander doesn’t seem to mesh with him, maybe some advanced stats can change my opinion)
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[Budz]

To start the season:

Knies Matthews Nylander
Robertson JT Marner
Bertuzzi Domi Jankrok
Lafferty Kampf Reaves

 

[LeafChief]

In response for the need to run a short roster due to the core four sucking up so much cap space I recommend the following three line rotation:

Knies/Matthews/Domi
Bertuzzi/Tavares/Jarnkrok
Nylander/Kampf/Marner
*Holmberg, Reaves

If hockey is a strong link game they should be splitting the talent up anyway.

Let the big shots show why they're worth so much. See who's an anchor and who's an engine. Splitting them up and having them drive their own lines is the only way it makes sense for the money they're demanding.

The only thing sticking these guys together has resulted in so far is them sticking it to the team.

I really wonder how good Marner and Nylander would do without a top centre. Those two studs should be able to make even Kampf into a thirty goal scorer for what they're demanding to get paid. If they can't carry their own line they aren't worth the bigs bucks.

None of them are.

Lmao. This is comedy.

 

[The Shrike]

Robertson and Holmberg are waivers exempt, so unless there's a trade they're going down before the season starts....to avoid losing assets. Timmins or Lafferty would be claimed.

 

[notDatsyuk]

In response for the need to run a short roster due to the core four sucking up so much cap space I recommend the following three line rotation:

Knies/Matthews/Domi
Bertuzzi/Tavares/Jarnkrok
Nylander/Kampf/Marner
*Holmberg, Reaves

If hockey is a strong link game they should be splitting the talent up anyway.

Let the big shots show why they're worth so much. See who's an anchor and who's an engine. Splitting them up and having them drive their own lines is the only way it makes sense for the money they're demanding.

The only thing sticking these guys together has resulted in so far is them sticking it to the team.

I really wonder how good Marner and Nylander would do without a top centre. Those two studs should be able to make even Kampf into a thirty goal scorer for what they're demanding to get paid. If they can't carry their own line they aren't worth the bigs bucks.

None of them are.

They could probably do it, although playing only one at a time with Tavares they could only get him to 18.

I'd be much more concerned about what Tavares could do without either of them, although we pretty much already know he's not worth the big bucks.

 

[TMLBlueandWhite]

They could probably do it, although playing only one at a time with Tavares they could only get him to 18.

I'd be much more concerned about what Tavares could do without either of them, although we pretty much already know he's not worth the big bucks.

If hockey is a strong link game, then the team with the best players on the ice at all times tend to win more (makes sense).

This should apply at the individual lineup level as well. So they keep rolling line after line with at least one elite player on it. Even if their individual totals go down, the team itself will benefit.

Are these guys team players or not?

 

[LeafEgo]

If hockey is a strong link game, then the team with the best players on the ice at all times tend to win more (makes sense).

This should apply at the individual lineup level as well. So they keep rolling line after line with at least one elite player on it. Even if their individual totals go down, the team itself will benefit.

Are these guys team players or not?

It's worth tinkering with but you have to look at total line quality and time on ice. You're making the first line weak against top competition and the third line strong, but the first line plays more minutes. Now we have Knies and Domi battling Hedman and Ekholm and Marner is defending their bottom sixers.

Pens were a rare example as Crosby was able to maintain top line quality with lesser players in a way no player has been able to in a long time.

We don't have a Crosby and we haven't had the money to make spreading out the talent work very well even across just two lines. Kampf can't be the centerman for both Willy and Mitch. This year is a bit different, but naturally defense is now a going concern.