New IIHF world ranking 2022

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Eye of Ra

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Nov 15, 2008
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Finland nr 1 in the world.

No idea why Sweden is ranked ahead of Slovakia, Germany, Czechia and Switzerland. We have not done better than those nations the last years.

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Best result for Switzerland so far. Funny they never got up that high when they reached the finals in '13 and '18. Big drop for the Germans, falling down four places must be harsh.
 
Best result for Switzerland so far. Funny they never got up that high when they reached the finals in '13 and '18. Big drop for the Germans, falling down four places must be harsh.
I'm struggling, what did the Swiss do to move up? Did I miss a medal?
 
Rankings based on B teams playing D teams at random tournaments around the world.

Bronze is not eligible to play today.

Happy Czechs are still in Top 10 given how awful we've been for a decade.
 
Sweden should obviously still be ranked ahead. But I’m struggling with Switzerland, why are they ranked ahead of us and Czechs?
Me too.. no shot on Swiss but they didn't medal at Olympics or World's. Eg. I got why Germany got a high ranking because of a few nice finishes at Worlds and a Silver in 2018!

As a sidenote.. hope Meier is going to World's.. he's outstanding.
 
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Switzerland is actually tied in points with the Czechs, but I assume the tie-breaker is that they finished higher recently. The 2020 WC being cancelled also makes these rankings kind of wonky.
 
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How the rankings work:

They take into account the tournament results for each country in a four-year cycle. So they'll always feature points from four WHCs and one olympics. However, the results from these years are not weighed equally, but there's a gradual decline - only 25% of the points earned are counted from three years ago, 50% from two years ago, 75% from the previous year and 100% from the ongoing year. In other words, the most recent outcome is given the heaviest weigh. But at the same time, consistency is rewarded somewhat.

Also, in case two countries are tied in points, higher placement in the most recent tournament is used as a tie-break.

Furthermore, for the cancelled 2020 WHC, the points were awarded according to the position in the 2019 final ranking. (The World Ranking, not the tournament table.)

I'm struggling, what did the Swiss do to move up? Did I miss a medal?
But I’m struggling with Switzerland, why are they ranked ahead of us and Czechs?
Switzerland finished ahead of Czechia in 3/5 tournaments (including the most recent one, which gives 'em the tie-break) that count towards the ranking, and ahead of Slovakia in 4/5. But it's not like the gap between these three is great - Switzerland and Czechia are actually tied in points, while Slovakia is just 20 points behind them.

But then, Switzerland/Czechia's gap to the fifth-place Sweden is 135 points, reflecting these three's position as reliable middle-tier countries that don't consistently compete for medals, however.
 
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Rankings based on B teams playing D teams at random tournaments around the world.

Bronze is not eligible to play today.

Happy Czechs are still in Top 10 given how awful we've been for a decade.
It's almost impossible for me to even understand what these rankings are suppose to mean given your first line.
 
It's almost impossible for me to even understand what these rankings are suppose to mean given your first line.
The last World Championship was the Canada D team beating the Finnish B team roughly
The current Bronze (third) is Russia who is not playing in the next tournament
The Finnish C team won the gold over the Russian C team at the Olympics

With no best on best, the rankings are totally meaningless.

However, I am very happy for the Finns to have 1!
 
Hard to argue with that. Olympic gold, WHC gold, WJC gold, WHC silver in the last 3 years for Finns.
The bolded one is not counting for this, though.

Another peculiar factoid: With Russia's expulsion, only Canada has a realistic chance of overtaking Finland in the upcoming tournament, as Finland's gap to the 4th place USA is a whopping 315 points. This means that Finland could finish as low as 12th(!) in the tournament table and they wouldn't drop lower than 2nd in the ranking.
 
This ranking has no value as its valid only for couple weeks before the WHC yields fresh points for the teams and only then will an updated ranking have value for future seeds.
 
The comments about these rankings "not mattering" and the whole [insert a country here]+[insert a random letter here] thing are getting a little tiring from one year to another. Trust me, you are not the first person to have these realizations and they don't even relate to the thread.
 
Whoever put these rankings together is an idiot or just extremely biased. Canada #1 always and forever.

I think a more accurate ranking will be available after the World Cup in 2024.
 
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Whoever put these rankings together is an idiot or just extremely biased. Canada #1 always and forever.

I think a more accurate ranking will be available after the World Cup in 2024.
This "always and forever "stuff drives me nuts, it's easily refutable by results, Canada is not always number 1.

It doesn't take a lot of research to know this.
 
Whoever put these rankings together is an idiot or just extremely biased. Canada #1 always and forever.

I think a more accurate ranking will be available after the World Cup in 2024.
Not that I know, but I'd be in shock if the World Cup was used in the rankings.
 
This "always and forever "stuff drives me nuts, it's easily refutable by results, Canada is not always number 1.

It doesn't take a lot of research to know this.
My whole thing is.. can we please, pretty please, have a few best on bests to ascertain this? I'm begging for some best on bests here!

Dream is 2024 World Cup, 2026 Olympics and then 2028 World Cup again!

I'd love to have the debate in 2028 after 3 best on bests.
 
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My whole thing is.. can we please, pretty please, have a few best on bests to ascertain this? I'm begging for some best on bests here!

Dream is 2024 World Cup, 2026 Olympics and then 2028 World Cup again!

I'd love to have the debate in 2028 after 3 best on bests.
I'd be willing to bet the debates are going to be pretty heated, if all 3 events happen my prediction is you are going to have 3 different winners.
 

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