New Accusations Edmonton Oilers owner Daryl Katz paid for sex with a teenager.

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McShogun99

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How old was the teenager?

Big difference beween 13 and 19.

There was a case in Alberta where a 30 something year old man had consensual sex with his 13 year old babysitter and got found not guilty because 13 is the "grey" area for sexual consent. If I remember correctly this was in the 80's or 90's but the law is 16 now. Still disgusting but I expect nothing less from slimy billionaires.
 

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Why is this thread still going, did i miss something?

I thought the alleged victim's own lawyer said it never happened...?
Because you have a billionaire who has himself admitted to giving direct payments to this 17yro girl for a supposed film project. Film project needing capital, get paid through project accounts, not from an investor directly to an actor in said project.

Regardless of what anyone is saying on any side... that breeds suspicion - and with this guy's history and her vulnerability - this guy is disgusting.
 

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Because you have a billionaire who has himself admitted to giving direct payments to this 17yro girl for a supposed film project. Film project needing capital, get paid through project accounts, not from an investor directly to an actor in said project.

Regardless of what anyone is saying on any side... that breeds suspicion - and with this guy's history and her vulnerability - this guy is disgusting.
How do you know this payment wasn't done through the company with Katz texting as a company rep?
 

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Why is this thread still going, did i miss something?

I thought the alleged victim's own lawyer said it never happened...?

She did say nothing happened and is not accusing Katz of anything.

But the internet sleuths who went to imaginary Harvard law apparently still would rather take the word of the people actually being accused of an actual crime here, who are clearly trying to deflect in any way they can, lol.
 

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Because Katz said he paid her himself - he admitted paying her after the allegations came out. If he had given it through the company, he'd have said as much and would have immediately reduced suspicion.
Suspicion? For what? These were not public comments. I do say these texts were creepy and I did initially call for Katz to sell the team unless this could be explained. Now I believe we cannot assume too much until we know more for the following reasons
1. The texts could make sense from the point of view of Katz being the decision maker of a company trying to secure talent.
2. The woman denies there was any sexual relationship between them and this was about work. Initially I thought this was a story about a woman suing Katz for abusing his power imbalance. That isn't the truth but it is the understandable first impression that everyone takes away.
3. The texts are not from a phone. They are images from the couple that the woman is suing for rape, and this is part of a strategy to smear her. These could have been doctored. Although, even though Katz's people say they were doctored we haven't heard that from the woman. But still, we do not have texts. We have an image of texts. That is the only evidence that has sunk Katz here unless we include the word of that couple.

This thread has become a hamster wheel of people coming in thinking this story is something different, just like my false first impression. It's been explained over and over
 

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Because you have a billionaire who has himself admitted to giving direct payments to this 17yro girl for a supposed film project. Film project needing capital, get paid through project accounts, not from an investor directly to an actor in said project.

Regardless of what anyone is saying on any side... that breeds suspicion - and with this guy's history and her vulnerability - this guy is disgusting.

Okay, so you're saying the payment was an attempt to groom her for sex that he didn't really follow through on or was unsuccessful?

Again, helluva'n accusation. Doesn't seem the girl or her legal team got that vibe
 
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Because you have a billionaire who has himself admitted to giving direct payments to this 17yro girl for a supposed film project. Film project needing capital, get paid through project accounts, not from an investor directly to an actor in said project.

Regardless of what anyone is saying on any side... that breeds suspicion - and with this guy's history and her vulnerability - this guy is disgusting.

Funds put directly onto a debit card, no less, just like has happened routinely with all great filmmakers like Spielberg and Scorsese! Totally above-board, nothing to see here!
 
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Okay, so you're saying the payment was an attempt to groom her for sex that he didn't really follow through on or was unsuccessful?

Again, helluva'n accusation. Doesn't seem the girl or her legal team got that vibe
No, I'm saying a direct payment from a billionaire to a vulnerable teen, calling it a "capital call" for a "film project" is nothing but BS and reeks of him being a disgusting human being. I'm not talking legal ramifications, I'm talking about my opinion of him being disgusting.
 

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No, I'm saying a direct payment from a billionaire to a vulnerable teen, calling it a "capital call" for a "film project" is nothing but BS and reeks of him being a disgusting human being. I'm not talking legal ramifications, I'm talking about my opinion of him being disgusting.

Idk, i just don't get it then...

If it's bullshit, that means it should be for some sinister reason but you're not really explaining what you think that might be.
 

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Idk, i just don't get it then...

If it's bullshit, that means it should be for some sinister reason but you're not really explaining what you think that might be.
If you've read the thread and ask my posts, it's clear the situation reeks of him trying to take advantage of a vulnerable teen who has been allegedly trafficked and abused and is in no state of mind to even know what a healthy relationship even is. That's why people in such situations often defend those trying to take advantage.

That makes him disgusting.
 

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Idk, i just don't get it then...

If it's bullshit, that means it should be for some sinister reason but you're not really explaining what you think that might be.

I mean, let's start here: based on the way in which the funds were dispersed, and the way in which Katz told the recipient to spend them on "herself", do you think it is likely they were actually for a film?
 
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FFS, didn't this guy know anyone with a pedo island? Things are definitely looking down for the uber wealthy. Why would anyone go through the trouble of being born a billionaire if you can't do whatever the f**k you want?
 

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With all the SMEs here, imagine the money we could save on not needing lawyers or courts.
 

TaLoN

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So people still siding with the rapist and abusers (the Buttons) against the Victim by taking the Buttons word over the Victims?

K. If that’s what you need to do to feel outraged.
I have said nothing that sides with them. I have taken what Katz himself has confirmed doing, and that itself reeks of suspicion and doesn't at all fit with his claimed reasoning. He doesn't even have to have had sex wh the teen to be obviously trying to take advantage of a vulnerable individual.

Thus based on that, all I've done is call him a disgusting individual. I'm sorry that offends you so much.
 

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I wonder if this was before or after he snorted so much coke with Vince Neil, that his face collapsed.
 

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I wonder if this was before or after he snorted so much coke with Vince Neil, that his face collapsed.

I've always wondered, if the sinus infection story was a cover for his nose being mutilated by snorting drugs/plastic surgery.

I've never heard of that happening with a sinus infection and when you Google 'Life threatening sinus infection' on Google Images, all of the top results come back to Katz and his face.

Arite Lange from Howard Stern show is a drug addict and his nose got destroyed in a similar way to Katz's by drug abuse....
 
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guzzy

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I've always wondered, if the sinus infection story was a cover for his nose being mutilated by snorting drugs/plastic surgery.

I've never heard of that happening with a sinus infection and when you Google 'Life threatening sinus infection' on Google Images, all of the top results come back to Katz and his face.

Arite Lange from Howard Stern show is a drug addict and his nose got destroyed in a similar way to Katz's by drug abuse....
Right? And he was actually on a multi month bender with Vince Neil at the time.
 
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