Player Discussion: Neal Pionk Part 2

[voyageur]

Agreed. The take that Pionk only plays well in contract years seems a little simplistic to me. I think the style of playing partner probably has a big impact on his play. He seems to have found a really nice groove with Samberg and just maybe this is just the start of many years of a strong 2nd pair for the Jets. 2 guys who skate well. One pushes offense, one more stay home. Also 2 guys that grew up in the same area and have known each other long before they were professional hockey players. Also agreed, Pionk's next contract will get more and more expensive if this current play continues.

It's easy to forget I guess that he led the Jets defense in scoring the first 2 years here post Buff. One of those wasn't a contract year. He's been a - defenseman one year here, and I believe that's the year he broke his foot according to Chevy.

Right now he's in line for a big payout, but I'm hoping he's the kind of guy that would leave money on the table so that his d partner gets rewarded too.

Still early but it's a lot less hostile in this thread than previous couple of years.

 

[Bob E]

If Pionk puts up career numbers, what would he be worth? $8M+ aav on a long term deal? I wouldn’t be comfortable giving him that deal with his inconsistency, slow feet and Salomonsson waiting in the wings.

And or if he doesn’t sign before the deadline do you move him? And what could you get in trade for him?

Will be an interesting few months with Ehlers, Pionk and Appleton needing new deals.

 

[Huffer]

I care less about Pionk putting up a ton of points, and more about him not being a total tire fire and liability in his own zone, which he has been more often than not in past years, and was also extremely poor in the playoffs.
He's been much better to start this season in that regard.

 

[Jet]

I care less about Pionk putting up a ton of points, and more about him not being a total tire fire and liability in his own zone, which he has been more often than not in past years, and was also extremely poor in the playoffs.
He's been much better to start this season in that regard.

Extremely poor in the playoffs? He nearly single-handedly neutralized the best player in the world in a 4 game series.

When Pionk has sucked the WHOLE TEAM has sucked. Thats coaching. Either they systems, the motivation, something is off with this team in the playoffs, and we can hope that Arniel and his associates can solve that this post season.

 

[Huffer]

Extremely poor in the playoffs? He nearly single-handedly neutralized the best player in the world in a 4 game series.

When Pionk has sucked the WHOLE TEAM has sucked. Thats coaching. Either they systems, the motivation, something is off with this team in the playoffs, and we can hope that Arniel and his associates can solve that this post season.

He was good in the Edmonton series, but has not been in the last 2 series IMO.

That shortened season was his high water mark (besides this season).

 

[Wpgpage]

I think the market has been pretty well set in this space on the low end you have Matt Roy at 5.75 and on the high end you have Theodore who just signed at 7.425. Pionk would be somewhere in-between those numbers. The dead center of that spread is 6.59 which feels very close to what the final number is going to be.

Neal's value is insanely hard to gauge you have 2 really bad seasons coming on the heels of two pretty good ones. Clearly he is capable of being a solid 3/4 guy the question is obviously consistency. The team is going to have a much better idea then the public about how much that foot Injury affected him last year so they will at least go in with that knowledge.

If they come out and sign him to 6 year deal at around 6.5 then we'll all know that they believe that he's the guy we saw earlier on in his time here and this season and that the injury played a large part in his poor performance. I wouldn't hate that deal but I also wouldn't be terribly upset if they let him walk.

 

[KingBogo]

I think the market has been pretty well set in this space on the low end you have Matt Roy at 5.75 and on the high end you have Theodore who just signed at 7.425. Pionk would be somewhere in-between those numbers. The dead center of that spread is 6.59 which feels very close to what the final number is going to be.

Neal's value is insanely hard to gauge you have 2 really bad seasons coming on the heels of two pretty good ones. Clearly he is capable of being a solid 3/4 guy the question is obviously consistency. The team is going to have a much better idea then the public about how much that foot Injury affected him last year so they will at least go in with that knowledge.

If they come out and sign him to 6 year deal at around 6.5 then we'll all know that they believe that he's the guy we saw earlier on in his time here and this season and that the injury played a large part in his poor performance. I wouldn't hate that deal but I also wouldn't be terribly upset if they let him walk.

This is a good analysis. I've been hoping for something slightly more team friendly based on some uneven play. Maybe 5 X $6M. A slight raise with decent term to the player the organization has stood by through good and bad.