What happened to the pup in a burning fire comment?
I never said it. But ya, if we go back through the original thread there were people who liked Pionk, I know he always caught my eye whenever watching the Rags. Can't enough high skill dmen. Plus I was never that high on Trouba....................or his appWhat happened to the pup in a burning fire comment?
I am definitely an optimist, there is no doubt about that, and that might have colored my initial opinion somewhat. What was more impactful for me was Pionk's pedigree, the impossible situation he was put in last year, the overall performance of the Rangers last year (including other D on the team and goaltending), and, most importantly, my faith in Jets management.
On pace for 50+ points, and leading the team D in relCF%, and positive in relxGF% with Sbisa as his main partner. That's an impressive first half, and it doesn't look like a fluke to me. He's been strong and consistent.
Watching him play this year, it seems like his play alone, (never mind Heinola) is making the trade seem a lot closer to a saw off than I ever expected. Granted, I was never a huge Trouba fan, so my opinion is a wee bit slanted.
How is trouba fairing in the relative stats.
No I'd say he is the real deal. 40 games and he has proven to be a solid pairing guy with real good offensive instincts. Nice underlying numbers as well.
Trouba is at 43.5 Corsi and -1.4 Rel Corsi % (Pionk is at +2.8)
What people don’t realize, and I don’t mean to slag on anyone, is that HF Jets has very knowledgeable posters that use eye test and analytics together and form very good opinions. That is not always the case on all team boards, especially when evaluating a players performance on an awful team in a losing season. I enjoy reading our board, most times we got some real good info to read. There is always something to learn, and I appreciate what people have to offer.
Either way they have to sign him long term as he is a keeper. Hopefully the fact that he has only had one great season is enough to keep the price tag low.
Pionk pt 1 and the signing threads are both hilarious. But solid props to @Scheifele55 and (spits) @Trinity for positive assessments right off the hop in page 1 of Pionk I. There were others too.
Nearly six months after signing, anybody think that contract "lools like Kulikov's?"
On a 52 point pace with very nice underlying numbers playing on the 2nd pairing with a at best a 6/7 partner. IMO given the right opportunity he is capable of a monster offensive season down the road. How I wish Chevy went against the grain last off season and signed him long term.
The whole deal was against the grain. We thought we were losing out big team on that deal. Right now pionk is worth Trouba without worrying bout salaries, without adding Heinola. Even the pionk and Heinola for Lemieux and Trouba is looking good.
I'm a big fan as well, and he is an exciting player. What I'm taking about is what if Chevy really rolled the dice and locked him up for $ 4.5 - $5M X 6. He would have got crucified at the time, but now he would be a genius. Now I'm hoping for something long term in the $6 M range.
Can he ask for 6 after one season? We could probably got him for long term for cheaper than that before this season as he wasn’t that well thought of. NYC seemed to be glad to be rid of him.
