News Article: NCC putting in a lot of conditions for the downtown site

[jbeck5]

Park and ride take a train in from the outskirts is what it looks like it will take.

Would be nice if there was greater infrastructure. If you don't live right off the line, it can be quite a bit... Either backtrack or be stuck taking a local bus as well because there's no park and ride options.

It would be nice if St Laurent and Blair, for example, could make a deal with the sens/OC transpo that a section of the mall parking lots labelled "sens zone" or something become a park and ride on game days between 6pm-midnight.

Let face it, those malls have so much empty parking on a Tuesday night in February...the malls probably close by 7-8 anyways.

Because let's face it, if you live anywhere in the eats end of Ottawa but aren't a 5-10 min walk from St Laurent or Blair, you have to take a local bus...and who wants to take a local bus at 1030pm on a weekday night..miss it and wait another 30 mins? No...

 

[JD1]

wow, who knew a simple status update on the arena project would result in generational warfare.

 

[Micklebot]

Who the f*** is going to be riding their bikes to the game on a -20 Tuesday night in February lmao
The same geniuses that decided to build outdoor bus stations in what is often the coldest capital in the world must've hooked the NCC up with their crack dealer

To be fair, there will be events there all year long, and Hockey is also played in Oct, Nov, Mar, Apr, and hopefully May-June.

Having to pay for infrastructure they didn't own caused a lot of issues for the completion of the CTC back in the day.

I'd argue it was the decision to prevent the rezoning of the Agricultural land they had planned on developing that was more of an issue.

 

[Do Make Say Think]

Same here. My parents help out a lot. It makes a difference.

I know other people's parents had a "me first" attitude with their children and would remortgage their house so they can go on fancy trips because YOLO but want to give their kids nothing when they pass. It's funny how different people have different priorities.

It may have been US centric, but I saw a report that boomers are burning through their money right now.

My parents are spending a crap ton on cruises, but I don't begrudge them for it. They've helped me a ton and they deserve to have a good time now. They sacrificed a lot for the kids, they didn't do a great job, but there is no doubt that they gave it their all.

 

[jbeck5]

It may have been US centric, but I saw a report that boomers are burning through their money right now.

My parents are spending a crap ton on cruises, but I don't begrudge them for it. They've helped me a ton and they deserve to have a good time now. They sacrificed a lot for the kids, they didn't do a great job, but there is no doubt that they gave it their all.

I guess it depends how they got their money lol boomers who invest seem to be making more than ever..

There's a lot of money to be made during hard economic times if you have the financial means.

 

[Stylizer1]

Who the f*** is going to be riding their bikes to the game on a -20 Tuesday night in February lmao
The same geniuses that decided to build outdoor bus stations in what is often the coldest capital in the world must've hooked the NCC up with their crack dealer

We have to save the world somehow.

 

[Stylizer1]

Park and ride take a train in from the outskirts is what it looks like it will take.

30 minutes to get into town and then 1.5 hours to take public transit.

Sounds like a plan Renfrew.

 

[OttawaSenators11]

I want an arena with ample amounts of parking.

People who wanna take the bus or a train or bike feel free but i wanna drive.

I hope Andlauer tries for a different spot honestly let the NCC build shit majority don’t care about and move on soon if they are the end requirements.

I wouldn’t be playing this game with these radicals morons at the NCC.

 

[jbeck5]

I want an arena with ample amounts of parking.

People who wanna take the bus or a train or bike feel free but i wanna drive.

I hope Andlauer tries for a different spot honestly let the NCC build shit majority don’t care about and move on soon if they are the end requirements.

I wouldn’t be playing this game with these radicals morons at the NCC.

This can be done via parking garages. Downtown is used to funneling like 250k workers in and out of downtown everyday.

What's 15-20k people at 930 leaving the arena. Should be pretty easy. Especially considering there will be multiple parking garages so people won't all be going to the same one on the same streets. It spread it's out.

 

[Micklebot]

30 minutes to get into town and then 1.5 hours to take public transit.

Sounds like a plan Renfrew.

The entire length of line 3 from Moody to Trim is expected to take 25 mins, and you'd only be taking half of that. what the hell are you talking about 1.5 hours of public transit?

 

[flyingfingers]

I live near the projected arena site and there is already AMPLE parking around here. Covered garages, surface lots, street parking... it's not a problem.

The people freaking out about parking are insane, IMO. It might take you an extra 10-15 minutes to walk from a surface lot to the arena compared to walking from Lot 9 at CTC, but big whoop. Suck it up.

On the other stuff, I have no doubt that the NCC is an absolute pain to deal with. I'm hopeful that the new PM's slogan of "Build, baby, build" filters down and the current staff at the NCC get with the program or get swapped out...

 

[Hotsam Batcho]

Astonishing that the city with a metro population of well over 1 million does not yet have a functioning train system going to and from every direction of the city hitting ever major hub location.

 

[Stylizer1]

The entire length of line 3 from Moody to Trim is expected to take 25 mins, and you'd only be taking half of that. what the hell are you talking about 1.5 hours of public transit?

I'm including the random malfunctions which seem to happen anytime it rains, snows, its sunny, windy, etc.

 

[Mingus Dew]

Astonishing that the city with a metro population of well over 1 million does not yet have a functioning train system going to and from every direction of the city hitting ever major hub location.

Pretty standard for North America unfortunately.

Toronto and Montreal have the same problems.

 

[Senscore]

Really hoping they invest in some tunnels in terms of accessing nearby infrastructure.

 

[Masked]

The entire length of line 3 from Moody to Trim is expected to take 25 mins, and you'd only be taking half of that. what the hell are you talking about 1.5 hours of public transit?

How is that possible when Tunney's to Blair takes around 30 mins?

 

[FunkySeeFunkyDoo]

I'm including the random malfunctions which seem to happen anytime it rains, snows, its sunny, windy, etc.

Random malfunctions are not the issue... the LRT is pretty reliable now.

I'd say the issue is whether it can move enough people in that short space of time when people are arriving for a game, and even moreso when people are leaving afterwards.

I dont have enough details to do the exact math, but my gut feeling is the wait times to get on a train after a game are going to be really really long...

 

[Butchy Dakkar]

Random malfunctions are not the issue... the LRT is pretty reliable now.

I'd say the issue is whether it can move enough people in that short space of time when people are arriving for a game, and even moreso when people are leaving afterwards.

I dont have enough details to do the exact math, but my gut feeling is the wait times to get on a train after a game are going to be really really long...

They have this down to a science in parts of Europe (with soccer stadiums - many more people than a hockey stadium), hopefully Ottawa gets it figured out. With enough trains and impeccable planning, you can move a lot of people quickly.

 

[FunkySeeFunkyDoo]

They have this down to a science in parts of Europe (with soccer stadiums - many more people than a hockey stadium), hopefully Ottawa gets it figured out. With enough trains and impeccable planning, you can move a lot of people quickly.

I think that will be the problem. I am not sure they have enough trains.

EDIT -- that's not really my main concern. More I think the entire thing is just not design to move lots of people fast... trains aren't big enough, platforms aren't big enough, people getting on and off trains will be really slow, etc

 

[Wallet Inspector]

Astonishing that the city with a metro population of well over 1 million does not yet have a functioning train system going to and from every direction of the city hitting ever major hub location.

I took a vacation to Japan last fall and the difference in public transit over there compared to Ottawa was night and day.

Or in hockey terms, their public transit was Sanderson and ours is Hamonic.

 

[Tuna99]

I took a vacation to Japan last fall and the difference in public transit over there compared to Ottawa was night and day.

Or in hockey terms, their public transit was Sanderson and ours is Hamonic.

Japan also has better sushi than Ottawa.

 

[Micklebot]

I'm including the random malfunctions which seem to happen anytime it rains, snows, its sunny, windy, etc.

Oh, so you're making up random worst case scenarios not based on reality, gotcha.

 

[Wallet Inspector]

Japan also has better sushi than Ottawa.

Well that's a given, lol

 

[HoweHullOrr]

wow, who knew a simple status update on the arena project would result in generational warfare.

If only there was a forum where people could discuss hockey. That would be really cool.

 

[Stylizer1]

Random malfunctions are not the issue... the LRT is pretty reliable now.

I'd say the issue is whether it can move enough people in that short space of time when people are arriving for a game, and even moreso when people are leaving afterwards.

I dont have enough details to do the exact math, but my gut feeling is the wait times to get on a train after a game are going to be really really long...

Lol not last Wednesday.