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Nevada 6
Houston 10
Air Force 8
Miss State 7
UCLA 4
Minnesota 5
Maryland 5
Clemson 7
Oregon 5
North Carolina 9
Purdue 4
Michigan State 5
Wisconsin 7
Wake Forest 10
Central Michigan 5
Alabama 10
Michigan 3
Arkansas 6
Oklahoma State 5
Iowa 5
Utah 6
Baylor 5
LSU 9
Alabama 8
 
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Tue. Dec 28
TicketSmarter Birmingham Bowl Houston vs Auburn - 7

SERVPRO First Responder Bowl Air Force vs Louisville - 6

AutoZone Liberty Bowl Texas Tech vs Mississippi St. - 6

SDCCU Holiday Bowl NC State vs UCLA - 6

Guaranteed Rate Bowl West Virginia vs Minnesota - 5

Wed. Dec 29

New Era Pinstripe Bowl Virginia Tech vs Maryland - 6

Cheez-It Bowl Iowa St. vs Clemson - 6

Valero Alamo Bowl Oregon vs Oklahoma - 5

Thu. Dec 30

Duke’s Mayo Bowl North Carolina vs South Carolina - 5

TransPerfect Music City Bowl Tennessee vs Purdue - 6

Chick-fil-A Peach Bowl Michigan St. vs Pitt - 6

SRS Distribution Las Vegas Bowl Wisconsin vs Arizona St. - 5

Fri. Dec 31

TaxSlayer Gator Bowl Rutgers vs Wake Forest - 8

Tony the Tiger Sun Bowl Central Michigan vs Washington St. - 5

Goodyear Cotton Bowl(Playoff) Cincinnati vs Alabama - 10

Capital One Orange Bowl(Playoff) Georgia vs Michigan - 7

Sat. Jan 1

Outback Bowl Arkansas vs Penn St. - 6

Playstation Fiesta Bowl Oklahoma St. vs Notre Dame - 6

VRBO Citrus Bowl Kentucky vs Iowa - 6

Rose Bowl Utah vs Ohio St. - 9

Allstate Sugar Bowl Baylor vs Ole Miss - 7

Tue. Jan 4

TaxAct Texas Bowl Kansas St. vs LSU - 6

Mon. Jan 10

College Football National Championship

Alabama vs Georgia - 8
 
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As much as it has turned into playoffs or bust, I don't wonder what some of these obviously non-medical opt-outs are thinking. The bowl experience for theses teams can be a once in a lifetime moment.
 
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Btw, glad to see Holgorsen doing well in Houston. WVU did that guy wrong, and unsurprisingly, they've been worse since he left. It should ring alarm bells when your coach resigns from a P5 position to go to the G5.
 
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My two most against the grain takes this year were that Michigan was significantly underrated, and Georgia was overrated. It's nice of the universe to rub my nose in it this way.

Monken apparently being the one insistent on Bennett is...scary.
 
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flyershockey said:
As much as it has turned into playoffs or bust, I don't wonder what some of these obviously non-medical opt-outs are thinking. The bowl experience for theses teams can be a once in a lifetime moment.
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Penn State has now had 6 opt outs.

- WR Jahan Dotson
- DE Arnold Ebikete
- S Jaquan Brisker
- LB Brandon Smith
- LB Ellis Brooks
- DT Derrick Tangelo

The last two are probably Day 3 guys at best, could go undrafted. The first four are probably Day 1-2 guys.

Arkansas best two draft eligible players opted out too. So if you’re a draft guy no point in really watching this one.
 
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LegionOfDoom91 said:
Penn State has now had 6 opt outs.

- WR Jahan Dotson
- DE Arnold Ebikete
- S Jaquan Brisker
- LB Brandon Smith
- LB Ellis Brooks
- DT Derrick Tangelo

The last two are probably Day 3 guys at best, could go undrafted. The first four are probably Day 1-2 guys.

Arkansas best two draft eligible players opted out too. So if you’re a draft guy no point in really watching this one.
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I get day 1 and 2 guys opting out. Go get your money and works towards that second contract. Not worth the risk of injury to put one more game of tape out there, especially when the league already thinks so highly of you.

Day 3/UDFA guys are the complete opposite, imo. Best case scenario, you elevate your status by putting in a quality performance. Worst case scenario, you get injured (as small a chance as that is), you come back with the extra year of eligibility, sign an NIL with someone, and work towards improving your stock. I tend to lean towards grades being an issue with some of these guys where they checked out in the classroom assuming it was their last semester in college and they were going pro.
 
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flyershockey said:
I get day 1 and 2 guys opting out. Go get your money and works towards that second contract. Not worth the risk of injury to put one more game of tape out there, especially when the league already thinks so highly of you.

Day 3/UDFA guys are the complete opposite, imo. Best case scenario, you elevate your status by putting in a quality performance. Worst case scenario, you get injured (as small a chance as that is), you come back with the extra year of eligibility, sign an NIL with someone, and work towards improving your stock. I tend to lean towards grades being an issue with some of these guys where they checked out in the classroom assuming it was their last semester in college and they were going pro.
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I think bowl games are pretty much going to the way of the dodo bird at this rate. Covid probably expedited things. The more they expand the playoffs it’s just going to water it down even more (which I expect to happen).
 
LegionOfDoom91 said:
I think bowl games are pretty much going to the way of the dodo bird at this rate. Covid probably expedited things. The more they expand the playoffs it’s just going to water it down even more (which I expect to happen).
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If this results in eliminating like 1/4 to 1/3 of Bowl Games permanently nothing of value will be lost.

I think once we get an expanded playoff there is going to be a lot more of opting out. Why bother with a bowl when you're not one of 12 teams going to play in any of those 11 total playoff games(bowls)
 
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I'd be good with eliminating bowls and turning them into playoff games, but bowl games are still a pretty damn cool experience for the players involved, most of which will never play in a greater setting. First class vacation, playing in a new venue, bowl game swag, etc.

It's still a pretty stellar deal, and opt outs still represent the minority of players. If you're at a mid level P5 or any G5 program, it's probably the highlight of your college career.
 
Hollywood Couturier said:
Sco Ducks.
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I get the feeling that Oregon has seen is best days. SC, under Riley is going to be a problem for the Ducks on the field and off. The days of raiding SoCal are over. No more going up against weak kneed Helton any longer.
Then there is that Utah situation. Many people dismiss them as a fluke. Not so. Every season they go out and kick @$$ on the field. With Whittingham they’re well coached. They’re going to be hard to push off of the throne of the PAC-12 North.
 
flyershockey said:
I'd be good with eliminating bowls and turning them into playoff games, but bowl games are still a pretty damn cool experience for the players involved, most of which will never play in a greater setting. First class vacation, playing in a new venue, bowl game swag, etc.

It's still a pretty stellar deal, and opt outs still represent the minority of players. If you're at a mid level P5 or any G5 program, it's probably the highlight of your college career.
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They still get good ratings. Like Florida/UCF got over 3M total viewers with an NFL game (I think that game was in like the 6M+ range) overlapping it.

So even with less glamour & everything people still watch them at a good clip for the most part. So the networks are going to hold out as long as they can.
 
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LegionOfDoom91 said:
I think bowl games are pretty much going to the way of the dodo bird at this rate. Covid probably expedited things. The more they expand the playoffs it’s just going to water it down even more (which I expect to happen).
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Flybynite said:
If this results in eliminating like 1/4 to 1/3 of Bowl Games permanently nothing of value will be lost.

I think once we get an expanded playoff there is going to be a lot more of opting out. Why bother with a bowl when you're not one of 12 teams going to play in any of those 11 total playoff games(bowls)
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flyershockey said:
I'd be good with eliminating bowls and turning them into playoff games, but bowl games are still a pretty damn cool experience for the players involved, most of which will never play in a greater setting. First class vacation, playing in a new venue, bowl game swag, etc.

It's still a pretty stellar deal, and opt outs still represent the minority of players. If you're at a mid level P5 or any G5 program, it's probably the highlight of your college career.
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I have a very good friend that played at Maryland and they made the Independence Bowl one of his years there. The players really enjoy it. After the regular season grind starting in August having a week out of town on a 'work' vacation is a reward for the overwhelming majority of players who have no professional future ahead of them.

One thing I think they could do to increase participation is use the NIL to give each player a 'payday'. I would also like to see the first game of every season be a matchup of the previous seasons bowl game with the winner of that hosting the game.
 
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