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Duke is fairly overrated this year. They really belong in the 22-28 range (yes I know 26-28 isn’t technically ranked)
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Beard done at Texas. Weird situation. Fiancé calls 911 but then retracts her statements later. Okay…..
Eh. Probably remembered her fiancé’s contract … too late tho.
Legendary college basketball announcer Billy Packer dies at 82 | The North State Journal
CHARLOTTE — Billy Packer, an Emmy award-winning college basketball broadcaster who covered 34 Final Fours for NBC and CBS, died Thursday. He was 82. Packer's son, Mark, told The Associated Press that his father had been hospitalized in Charlotte for the past three weeks and had several medical is
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Legendary college basketball announcer Billy Packer dies at 82 | The North State Journal
CHARLOTTE — Billy Packer, an Emmy award-winning college basketball broadcaster who covered 34 Final Fours for NBC and CBS, died Thursday. He was 82. Packer's son, Mark, told The Associated Press that his father had been hospitalized in Charlotte for the past three weeks and had several medical is
Man, RIP. He was ACC Basketball for a long time.
IIRC he was the guy who said "They won it! On the dunk!" right after Lorenzo Charles dunk in 1983. Legendary commentary
Meh. He was good with Thacker in the early years. Got a bit of a big head once he went national. Could not hide his disdain for UNC (and yet no others) no matter what he professed.
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Carolina and Duke are seeing levels of performance we haven’t seen in some, especially at the same time.
Both head coaches are struggling with using their players correctly and building the players into a team.
Both head coaches are struggling with using their players correctly and building the players into a team.
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Well my Hokies have had an injury ruined season. Only 4-8 in ACC play after entering conference play on an absolute heater? Blah
But
3 of those 4 wins are UNC, Duke, and Virginia
So its not all bad
But
3 of those 4 wins are UNC, Duke, and Virginia
So its not all bad
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Yea state can finally claim to be on the same level as Duke and UNC for once
Yeah, we've gotten used to the suck factor. Glad to watch Duke and UNC fans come back to Earth, though.
Let me help:
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i dont care honestly. My love for college basketball has faded quite a bit over the last 10 years. I use to love it, always watching it. its whatever now. Although I still enjoy UNC losing. That will likely never change.
Yeah, same for me as well. It became pretty clear to me that the NCAA sports landscapes are a very unequal playing field. For the most part, I stopped watching most of their sports and now just watch professional sports when I want to follow a team. Not that I think all professional sports are perfectly equal opportunities for every team, but the lack of recruiting cesspool helps even out the talent and make the leagues more competitive.
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In my opinion, college athletics are going to be on a very rapid fall to obscurity in the next 10-15 years. NIL and the Big Ten and SEC have completely blown up the competitive balance and those not currently a part of it are already left behind. And its going to hit this area extremely hard because none of Duke, UNC, or NCSU are going to be able to keep up with everyone else financially, and we're all stuck in the ACC until 2036.
If anything, its really good news for the Hurricanes.
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the competitive balance thing never bothered me because there hasnt really been competitive balance. there were only a few teams every year that had a real shot at a college football or basketball championship. Most of the names stayed the same year to year.
the amount of money involved, free transfers, and 1 and done rule has turn college sports into worse than pro sports. guys and gals are now on 1 year contracts. Why even follow a team anymore? The team changes so much from year to year. The NCAA's transfer rule change wont stop it much. players will take their free transfer, go play in a junior college somewhere if they dont like the 2nd place and then go to another school.
I feel like hockey is one of the only sports around that rules changes over the last 2 decades have improved the sports. hockey is alittle more free flowing. hockey still has its problems (intentionally inconsistent refereeing, new love for pick plays, allowing dudes to intentionally injure players) buts it better than it was in the 80s and early 90s. Basketball and football on the other hand has gotten worse in my opinion. College basketball has morphed into a NBA style of no defense, all offense. illegal screens are rarely called, palming and carrying is almost an every possession thing, traveling is really bad, etc. Guys cant even play defense anymore with guys being able to do what they want and add in no need for team offense anymore when a guy can freely break the rules with the ball in his hand. Its becomes 5 individuals out there on the court than a team. Much like NBA basketball. Its all about the top 20% of the players who can individually create baskets and the rest clear out and hang on the perimeter. I dont enjoy it.
I like that football has tried to clean up some of the DB grabbing, the late hits, and the dirty ones. but the game has evolved into a 7 on 7 flag football game. with the occasional QB sack when the O line wasnt able to hold the DE before he made it past them. Im not advocating for the 3 yard run into a cloud of dust days. But the defense is at a major disadvantage. legal screen plays. WRs can block ahead of time if the ball is thrown behind the LOS, etc.
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Good: State in the Top 25 and both UNC and Duke out of it, for probably the first time since like the 70s or something
Bad: it's probably because the ACC is dying
Ugly: Hubert Davis
Bad: it's probably because the ACC is dying
Ugly: Hubert Davis
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first time since 82-83 season... which also had a very good houston team
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as soon as the SEC payout is high enough when they get their new deal, Clemson and FSU leave for the SEC (media rights deal or not). SEC only wants to be a Southeastern based conference and will likely avoid non "Southeast" teams. Markets dont seem to matter to the SEC, increasing the quality of the product is their concern.
ACC's football will quickly slide into more irrelevance and all of that expansion in the early 2000s will be for nothing. Honestly those were the wrong additions anyways and started the ACC's downfall.
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don't think they're good enough this year either, though still pretty effing good.
I wouldn't count out State and VT getting lifelines into the conference either since, while market isn't THE driving force for the SEC, it's still a pretty damn big one. Otherwise West Virginia would be in the SEC right now and Mizzou would still be trying to convince the B1G to take them according to what some SEC insider types have told me over the years since the previous round of expansion chaos when the Big East imploded. The SEC will not simply be OK with the B1G taking full market share in NC and VA when the next expansion comes.
The weird one might be if the B1G starts making overtures at GT along with UNC, UVA, and Duke when the time comes. That could cause the SEC to go to 24 by trying to take GT to shut out the B1G, and who the f*** knows who the other 3 schools will be when they make that move.
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My worry is that even though I'm sure VT will end up in the SEC or Big Ten, as our overall profile fits them even though our current team quality is crap, it's all going to happen about 10 years too late because of the ACC Grant of Rights. Every ACC team right now is looking at a $40m per year financial disadvantage when compared to those conferences, and over the long haul that's going to bury everyone in a financial hole that we won't be able to pull ourselves out of.
I'm not sure this is the impediment you think it is. The Grant of Rights can be broken if there are enough schools willing to vote to do so. If the financial shortfall is so extreme, then there likely will be enough schools with options to make a block large enough to vote to opt out of the Grant of Rights. All it will likely take is the B1G and the SEC to extend offers to the VA, NC (state schools), Clemson, and FSU, and Duke or GT to get enough votes, I think.
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I don’t know about that. Mizzou is the boston college add of the SEC. Both were good at the two big sports at the time of their additions but quickly faded into obscurity after that. Both ended up being mistake additions.
WVU doesn’t have anything appealing to conferences. Market sucks, recruiting sucks in WV, travel sucks, and they generally aren’t competitive enough on a regular basis to be of any interest. Then add in their fans are downright revolting. Tennessee esque without recruiting or history.
Im not sure the SEC cares what happens in NC or VA. These aren’t the days of the 90s and before where folks only got to see the games of the schools in their vicinity and one big national game. All games are nationally televised and the public wants to see the best games. No one will care about a UCLA vs NC football game. Everyone will be tuned into UGA vs Clemson. They probably watch the Egg Bowl over the previously mentioned potential Big 10 matchup.
Just as adding Cuse, BC, and Miami did nothing to make the ACC better. No one cared about Cuse vs Miami in basketball or football. Adding just to add isnt a good thing. Its more mouths to feed while making the food more bland to feed them. Strategic additions has been the SEC’s game minus the one Mizzou addition.
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Good: State is ranked!
Bad: It probably won't last too long...if State's history of being ranked and falling is any indication
Ugly: If they crack the top 20, they usually follow it up quickly with a loss to the likes of South Iowa Community College practice squad and bomb out the rest of the season for an embarrassing fall from grace
