NBA Lessons For The NHL

Interesting and unsettling how much of this could be equally applied to the NHL.


Good video.
I agree with most of it but I think they left out the elephant in the room.
If I mention it I think the moderators will delete this post.
So let me say that the NBA is having the same issues that Hollywood is having today.
You can't give the middle finger to half of your fans and then wonder why they stop watching?

As for the NHL, for the most part they did not do this so it is not as much as an issue.
Reducing physicality in hockey is keeping players healthier but it is taking the "hate and rivalry" out of the game.

I miss the battle/war of AB in the 80/90s.
I miss the Tor/Bos hatred.
MTL/Que hate was awesome to watch in the 80's and 90's
Bos/Mtl in the 70's.
Philly against anyone they were playing in the 80s
These were not PO series or regular season games, theses were declarations of war.
The NHL no longer has this.
 
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I agree entirely. The NBA has carved its games up between streamers so extensively that it's basically become pay-per-view. Don't get me started on the ridiculous premium you have to pay in Canada if you want to watch a team other than the Raptors.

The NBA deserves the decline, and let it be a lesson to the NHL.
Even Lebron James himself was caught illegally streaming an NBA game on his laptop while sitting courtside.

It's just SO MUCH MORE convenient to use than even the legitimate options these days. No lag, 4k stream after 2 clicks, all the games on the same service. Beats having 5 different paid apps and still get blackouts.
 
The NBA hasn't been able to make Jokic, Giannis, SGA, Doncic, Embiid, Tatum, etc. generation feel like "Mahomes vs Allen vs Jackson vs Burrow". Maybe it's declining interest in NBA for other reasons, too many internationals, bad luck with them not facing each other a lot in the playoffs, but it just doesn't quite feel right as a hierarchy, Mahomes "feels" more right calling right the "1 guy" of his sport than Jokic. Overall the storyline of this era just isn't coming together that dramatic for people with Jokic and Giannis getting their 1 title by the middle of their prime without having to through each other compared to what we saw in the NFL this year with two guys in Allen and Jackson battling each other for the chance to break through and then the reward for Allen being to take on Mahomes after getting owned by him for years.
 
NBA has a ton of issues:
-3pt spamming
-arbitrary foul calls
-star driven league (not necessarily a bad thing but stars have too much power, too little loyalty and this creates bandwagon fans or “fans of player”, and it becomes a league of a handful of individuals with teams taking a back seat). More than ever it seems stars are on an island with the whole “brand” thing
-no defense, no intensity, no rivalries
-the same few plays like pick and roll or whatever spammed at the top of the key

ETA: it just feels like a social media league
 
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The NBA problems feel like a perfect storm. They waded full force into the culture wars and lost on a host of issues from defund the police, to BLM, etc. In addition their stars and faces of the league, from Lebron to Steve Kerr sold completely out to one side of the political aisle and very clearly told large portions of their fan base that they did not want their support. Shockingly telling the majority of your fan base that you don't want their attendance or viewership has consequences. When that is combined with an increasingly boring and soft product without legit universal stars it is a recipe for implosion.

Fortunately the NHL managed to dodge a lot of this at the last second. Dropping the "month" jerseys and steering away from political hot button issues managed to make them an alternative for people who just wanted entertainment. In addition, the NHL's refusal to properly promote their stars has meant that they managed to retain the team's importance above the player so team loyalty has better survived in the era of Free Agents. Also, quite frankly the NHL retains a men's culture of unselfishness, toughness and sacrifice that the NBA lost decades ago and as that culture grows in relevance (i.e. rise of MMA, elevation of football, etc.) the NHL is better positioned to ride that wave then get swamped by it.

All that sits on top of the fact that the rise in scoring and the method of scoring now means every possession is less important and less relevant even in close games. While the number of competitive games dwindles because players organize and choose to play together via UFA. And finally the fact that paying fans never know if they will actually get to see star players, because they have so many rest days, is insane. All problems that the NHL has managed to avoid due to its culture.
 
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The NBA problems feel like a perfect storm. They waded full force into the culture wars and lost on a host of issues from defund the police, to BLM, etc. In addition their stars and faces of the league, from Lebron to Steve Kerr sold completely out to one side of the political aisle and very clearly told large portions of their fan base that they did not want their support. Shockingly telling the majority of your fan base that you don't want their attendance or viewership has consequences. When that is combined with an increasingly boring and soft product without legit universal stars it is a recipe for implosion.

Fortunately the NHL managed to dodge a lot of this at the last second. Dropping the "month" jerseys and steering away from political hot button issues managed to make them an alternative for people who just wanted entertainment. In addition, the NHL's refusal to properly promote their stars has meant that they managed to retain the team's importance above the player so team loyalty has better survived in the era of Free Agents. Also, quite frankly the NHL retains a men's culture of unselfishness, toughness and sacrifice that the NBA lost decades ago and as that culture grows in relevance (i.e. rise of MMA, elevation of football, etc.) the NHL is better positioned to ride that wave then get swamped by it.

All that sits on top of the fact that the rise in scoring and the method of scoring now means every possession is less important and less relevant even in close games. While the number of competitive games dwindles because players organize and choose to play together via UFA. And finally the fact that paying fans never know if they will actually get to see star players, because they have so many rest days, is insane. All problems that the NHL has managed to avoid due to its culture.
Well said.
There are consequences when you tell half your fan base to take a hike because you do not like their politics. The entertainment and sports industries have seem to have forgotten they thrive as a escape for average people. Once you put politics into your product you WILL alienate at lease half of your fan base and remove the most important reason why people watch and care. I'll never go to a movie theater again. I will never watch an NBA game again. I simply do not care anymore. Apathy is the greatest danger to professional sports today. The NHL has not pissed me off yet so I remain a fan but they better learn the lessons that the NBA and NFL are now learning.
 
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Biggest issue with the NHL (other than it being impossible to watch and piracy being the best way to watch it) is how few games are played between rivals. Why the hell does Montreal play Boston, Ottawa, and Toronto 3, 4, and 4 times respectively? Why are we not still doing the 8 games between rivals? Why do I need to see Montreal play at home and away against Seattle?
When the schedule featured 8 games against division rivals, big road draws like Crosby, Ovechkin, etc. would appear in Western Conference rinks once every 3 years. To correct that, the league decided every team should play in every rink at least once every season.

I can see both sides of the argument, but 8 games per season against each team in the division became boring. "We're playing them again? Yawn."

The league has too many teams to resolve this problem to everyone's satisfaction. And you can be certain that the NHL won't be content until franchises are in Hou$ton, Atlanta (3rd time'$ the charm!), and Phoenix (ju$t need a $erious owner!). The scheduling issues will only get worse.
 

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