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Lol doing their best to make sure a defector doesn’t become #1….
 

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That was as entertaining a playoff as you’ll ever see in golf. Both guys making mistakes, making big putts, fun to see WZ win.
 

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That was as entertaining a playoff as you’ll ever see in golf. Both guys making mistakes, making big putts, fun to see WZ win.

He was due. On the previous playoff hole it looked like the golf gods had it in for him with the bad bounce and then Straka getting lucky by the hazard.

Then the contrasting tee shots on the par 3....yow! I counted like 9 lucky bounces for Zalatoris and I think just one unlucky one for Straka.

They say you need luck to win on the PGA tour and I think WZ got some karma from all the near misses.
 

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Some PGA tour players are being found out for the pissy little self-serving money grubbers they've always been.

Though I do enjoy seeing Chamblee get a hot foot.
 

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It's a bit like Rotella in the potential effect, I'd say.

I hope you're ready for The Crazy. I'm not sure I'd read all this or try it before trying the simpler fix of the book I recommended. Up to you. Going to spoiler this because it's long:

I've been down the rabbit hole for a long time so the mad scientist is always looking for more. I'm self-taught with an unconventional John Daly looking swing and have been playing & studying for about 25 years. My current handicap is 0.8 but I can put up a big ugly number on a hole with the best of them, including in competitions, so I keep hunting for secrets.

You name it, I've probably dissected it and tried it.

There's a saying to the effect of "when the student is ready the master will appear". I'd been thinking about this for a while and wondered if I should talk to a nearby pro who's played the Canadian tour.

Then one day recently I was at the club and I ran into the GM and one of the other pros, both of whom worked for me at a different course years ago. They told me Mac O'Grady had been flown in from Japan via California iirc by some members for a set of marathon, multi-day private group lessons.

I could see the mythical figure at the chipping green and was in awe that he was actually there, and teaching, since even the USGA couldn't confirm he was still active.

Mac is notorious for being...eccentric...and this situation was no different. I won't go into some of the things that went down that day but they were interesting and consistent with the legends.

That got me to circle back to some of his videos and theories. You can spend days going through it all but I zeroed in on some of his basic ideas from the late 80s that I wasn't aware of.

He's a disciple of Homer Kelley and "The Golfing Machine" just like DeChambeau, though he diverged from some elements of Kelley at some point (which is fitting since Mac is a rebellious anti-authoritarian). Like both of them I've done a lot of looking at the physics, biomechanics, and math involved in golf and tend to buck the common thinking.

After some trial and error I found some parts of his MORAD system were good for me while others were probably personal or temporary modifications. Mac did change some ideas as the years went by-- like grip strength, stance width, etc, --but he was adamant about them when he believed in them, per his nature. So you have to beware while viewing/reading as I found out.

One thing that was useful to me was the separation of the swing into 10 positions, more specifically the P2, P3, and P4 positions to the top. You can look these up but they're basically common steps in the backswing. I found that I could hit these positions in an even tempo and then impact on the next (4th) beat and it made my chances of success higher.

This seems pretty stock and it sort of is, but it has some significance. I'd messed around with various 6/8 tempos in the past (Snead thought of a waltz while swinging) and the Tour Tempo book over 20 years ago, but having those positions ticked off in a good rhythm and tempo added some consistency and balance to the swing that weren't there when I was focusing on more narrow elements around the ball. Coordination is important, obviously, and this helps with it.

There's even video out there of Mac O'Grady and Gary McCord hitting balls at the same time, and they're in perfect sync without watching each other. It's pretty cool.

There's a problem with relying on just tempo, however. You can feel one way today while there's a totally different but subtle change the next day. You might think everything is the same but you could have a little extra tension in one muscle of the forearm or hand, or maybe the scapula is winged an inch more because of fatigue or posture, or your back is a bit stiffer and you're not clearing as well, etc

That means you can feel like you're swinging in that same tempo and hitting those same positions but the clubface or path will be off by a few degrees and that's enough to send the ball into the parking lot.

I already knew positions in the swing were no guarantee of perfect impact conditions, as sometimes the swing is just "adding power to the waggle", which can be a preview of the "release".

This is where the MORAD thing came into play again.

In 1987 Mac was preaching a "no rotation" philosophy regarding the forearms and clubhead, with the the body and club just turning and right arm simply extending on the downswing to "release" the club. I believe he felt he was doing that but it's physically impossible to make an on-plane swing and hit those positions without rotating the club as you turn. It has to rotate some to get to P2 which is clubshaft parallel to the ground with hands around hip-high.

Moe Normal also insisted he didn't rotate the club but you can see he did. We might feel like our arms never "wander" across the chest or rotate but that's just the feeling of doing less of it than before. Likewise you can't get to a good position at the top with your arms in the same orientation to your torso that they were at address.

So just turning, hinging, and reversing the order of those movements is attractive in its simplicity but not really what happens.

Additionally there was talk about maintaining the angle of the right wrist about 12-20 degrees throughout the swing, with Kelley saying the right wrist can only dorsiflex, not experience ulnar or radial deviation. This means it can only cup backwards toward the forearm, and can't make a "chopping" up and down motion, which is what the left wrist is supposed to do (the hinge on the backswing).

This didn't make any sense to me. Try to get to the top with a decent hinge of the left wrist while not hinging the right wrist in the same plane. It's impossible. So that's a contradiction in Kelley that Mac also seemed to have picked up.

That got me looking further at what Kelley had to say about "Educated Hands" and personal variations.

If the most authoritative scientific examination of the golf swing can conclude we need some level of hand-eye coordination and "educated hands", and there are personal variations in all swings, this is a very freeing thing to know.

How then to nail down what to do in the hitting area?

This is a good read on the topic that shows better than I can explain:

The "Flying Wedges" and Wrist Movement Glossary

Making sure to preserve the "flying wedge" and rotating the forearms back and through (Hogan's old pronation and supination) are better for ballstriking than flipping and losing your wrist angle.

It's also much easier and more comfortable to get into positions and just swing this way.

One thing I'd done in the past when using this or similar methods was keep turning over the club through impact (for the sake of power and "release") which worked if timing was good but produced weird results if not (hooks, blocks, etc).

So it now seemed a better option to rotate the forearms/hands/club back to square and NO FURTHER unless trying to draw the ball.

This with the timing and the positions AND the MORAD-consistent idea that the shoulders are the engine of the swing (back and through, don't stop them) produced a lot of power and greater consistency, but at times some pulls or maybe slight fades I didn't like.

Why? Because in addition to the hand-eye coordination and timing necessary you still have to stay ORIENTED TO THE TARGET.

It's very easy to feel like you're swinging in line with your body when you're actually releasing the club a few degrees to the inside or outside, producing pulls/slices or blocks/hooks. With all that body movement and shoulders turning it's not hard to imagine them becoming oriented incorrectly vs the target line at the moment of truth.

Stopping the shoulders in order to shuttle the clubhead down the line as long as possible is not an option since it robs power and doesn't really solve the accuracy problem since it's difficult to execute correctly or consistently, as you end up needing to kind of chicken wing to "steer" the club through the hitting area and parallel to your body/shoulders/feet/whatever.

So again I went back to some old methods where I use an Intermediate Target, which helps me visualize the clubhead staying square and going straight down the line through the IT, even as the shoulders are pulling everything around and through. (In the book I recommended this would be like throwing the clubhead at the target, only I'm using an imaginary line on the ground extending from ball to IT as the guide).

So my goal during the strike is to swing with my shoulders, get into positions IN TEMPO while using the forearm rotations, and via that rotation and unhinging deliver a squared clubhead down the line as long as possible. The shoulders naturally pull it around and you FEEL like you're sending the clubhead a foot or two at the target but the reality is the arc only flattens for a very short period...compression is maybe 1/8th of an inch for wedges and about half the diameter of the ball for driver.


This is another example of the pros confusing feel and real, as Moe Norman believed he held this position for 22 inches past impact when video shows he clearly did not. But to him that's how it FELT.

Still another example of the legends not really knowing what they're doing is Nicklaus believing clubhead path determines starting direction per his book "Golf My Way". These days we know from Trackman data that the opposite is true, and depending on loft the starting direction is around 80-85% from face angle.

Anyway, the last time I was doing this entire combination of tactics on the range I was dropping the ball on flags and carrying the back of the range around 270. The last shot of the session was a mid-iron that nailed the flag at 150yds.

To find a swing method that allows more power AND potentially the freedom to swing in a way I find workable (and capable of drawing or fading based on how much the forearms rotate, especially the lead/left arm/wrist) is encouraging.

You can even swing just to P2 and back down to impact on the NEXT beat for a partial shot, in the same tempo, using the same principles. Or go to P3 for a slightly longer one, again same tempo. And you can draw or fade even when doing this. With any club.

But I haven't been able to get to the range in a while due to work and a nasty, ongoing bout of COVID via my kid's daycare so who knows what this will look like when I start up again.

TMI? Probably. Maybe you'll find it useful. Maybe not.

And then there's putting... I have a secret about that I'm not telling anyone because it's so simple in execution, even though complex in theory. ;)

Well after getting over a nasty bout of Covid which forced a layoff and reset whatever habits I'd grooved, I did get to test this more on the range and it turned out to be too complicated (shocking). So now I'm back to a simpler method that's more about swinging the clubhead and is more in line with the book I recommended.

That's kind of the pendulum...from more control to less. Usually it's compensations on top of compensations or daily fluctuations causing the issues. When you start missing shots you hunt for ways to improve accuracy via more conscious manipulation, and since "golf is not a game of perfect" you inevitably end up making things worse.

Ultimately it's about passing "how to" information to the back of the brain so it can be done on autopilot, then finding a way to occupy the front so that can happen.

Be interested to hear how the lessons work out.
 
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Yeah but how? We have a slew of young players, but very few available picks in round 1
He’s going to the Knicks. The Jazz aren’t interested in Washington’s 2028 first round pick and the rest of their young guys aren’t attractive enough. Rui is eligible for more money next year diluting his value, Johnny Davis was just drafted 10th in a weak draft and struggled during summer league, and Deni and Corey don’t have the upside to compete with packages other teams can offer.
 

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Some PGA tour players are being found out for the pissy little self-serving money grubbers they've always been.

Though I do enjoy seeing Chamblee get a hot foot.
I mean I know it's fashionable to piss on Reed, but why does a defamation suit make anyone a self-serving money grubber?

Nobody looks out for you, like you.
 

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Well after getting over a nasty bout of Covid which forced a layoff and reset whatever habits I'd grooved, I did get to test this more on the range and it turned out to be too complicated (shocking). So now I'm back to a simpler method that's more about swinging the clubhead and is more in line with the book I recommended.

That's kind of the pendulum...from more control to less. Usually it's compensations on top of compensations or daily fluctuations causing the issues. When you start missing shots you hunt for ways to improve accuracy via more conscious manipulation, and since "golf is not a game of perfect" you inevitably end up making things worse.

Ultimately it's about passing "how to" information to the back of the brain so it can be done on autopilot, then finding a way to occupy the front so that can happen.

Be interested to hear how the lessons work out.

All this talk of golf swings has gotten me interested in starting back up. Haven't played a round in 4-5 years after going my twenties playing once a week in season. Was never more than a low-90s scorer when I played though.

Kinda curious what I'd shoot playing 9 at Burke Lake, if I got 1 bucket of range balls beforehand. On one hand, I haven't swung a club for 4 years, on the other I played for 15-20 years beforehand. In terms of course knowledge, I'd say I've played Burke Lake at least 100 times, so I know what my good shots and my bad shots look like at that course. I think I break 40 most all rounds, because the range balls will let me establish how different my yardages are from the last time I played. Don't remember ever breaking par playing 9, but I definitely had a couple rounds 30 or under.
 

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Man when I was young and first started I used to play Burke Lake a ton. Would be fun to take my daughter and walk that, let her caddy for me lol.

After I outgrew Burke Lake, Twin Lakes was my next regular course when I was starting out…
 

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I mean I know it's fashionable to piss on Reed, but why does a defamation suit make anyone a self-serving money grubber?

Nobody looks out for you, like you.

It's my opinion. I see a lot of already filthy rich snobs finally cutting loose and going for each others' throats once even bigger bucks are on the table.

Does PR really NEED to sue Chamblee? Of course not.

Let's not pretend guys who make several million a year are struggling to make ends meet like 99% of the public. I admire the skill but they still just play a game and imo they all should be grateful for the opportunity. Instead they just grab for more cash, talk a lot of shit, and sue each other.

Country club brats.
 

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It's my opinion. I see a lot of already filthy rich snobs finally cutting loose and going for each others' throats once even bigger bucks are on the table.

Does PR really NEED to sue Chamblee? Of course not.

Let's not pretend guys who make several million a year are struggling to make ends meet like 99% of the public. I admire the skill but they still just play a game and imo they all should be grateful for the opportunity. Instead they just grab for more cash, talk a lot of shit, and sue each other.

Country club brats.
Maybe its me, but I don’t equate athletes, PGA golfers, whatever, to filthy rich snobs.

If Reed feels he has a legit legal beef, let him do his thing. This is a litigious world and if Reed is proven wrong in court, he’ll pay expenses and be laughed at. That suit is about stopping the perceived slights more than anything IMO.

Look, I get it, the money thing puts a lot of fans off because they already think Pros are overcompensated, and Reed is a breed of his own beyond that.

For some of these guys, a less grueling lifestyle was also a large part of the draw. Not have to be on the road for 25-30 PGA events a year, PLUS all the other obligations added on top of that. Being away from your family 80% of the year isn’t for everyone. So they take the money and the less stressful work schedule.

I don’t get why the PGA Tour is being so divisive. It’s play by only our restrictive rules, or piss off. These guys asked first nicely. It didn’t have to go this way, but I keep hearing Monahan talking about how these guys want to double dip. What is wrong with a landscape where players can choose to play any events worldwide anywhere as long as they makes their commitments?

PGA golfers are not under employment contracts like our major sports leagues.
 
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Maybe its me, but I don’t equate athletes, PGA golfers, whatever, to filthy rich snobs.

If Reed feels he has a legit legal beef, let him do his thing. This is a litigious world and if Reed is proven wrong in court, he’ll pay expenses and be laughed at. That suit is about stopping the perceived slights more than anything IMO.

Look, I get it, the money thing puts a lot of fans off because they already think Pros are overcompensated, and Reed is a breed of his own beyond that.

For some of these guys, a less grueling lifestyle was also a large part of the draw. Not have to be on the road for 25-30 PGA events a year, PLUS all the other obligations added on top of that. Being away from your family 80% of the year isn’t for everyone. So they take the money and the less stressful work schedule.

I don’t get why the PGA Tour is being so divisive. It’s play by only our restrictive rules, or piss off. These guys

asked first nicely. It didn’t have to go this way, but I keep hearing Monahan talking about how these guys want to double dip. What is wrong with a landscape where players can choose to play any events worldwide anywhere as long as they makes their commitments?

PGA golfers are not under employment contracts like our major sports leagues.


The latest legal ruling went agains the LIV golfers based on the "rules of membership" angle I anticipated coming into play previously.

That said the PGA tour had a right to set the limits and make the threats but it may backfire now that the Saudis just upped the money and started getting guys to jump. The PGAT backed themselves into a corner.

As for the Reed thing, the money is only part of the equation. I think money is exposing a lot of character issues with some of these guys. My opinion.
 

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The Washington Wizards announced their 2022-23 regular season schedule today, with the season opener set for Wednesday, Oct. 19 in Indiana. The Wizards’ home schedule opens two days later versus the Chicago Bulls on Friday, Oct. 21 at Capital One Arena. The team will also welcome the Detroit Pistons (Oct. 25), Indiana Pacers (Oct. 28), and Philadelphia Sixers (Oct. 31) to D.C. during the month of October. The 2022-23 Wizards season will be presented by Capital One.
 

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The Washington Wizards announced their 2022-23 regular season schedule today, with the season opener set for Wednesday, Oct. 19 in Indiana. The Wizards’ home schedule opens two days later versus the Chicago Bulls on Friday, Oct. 21 at Capital One Arena. The team will also welcome the Detroit Pistons (Oct. 25), Indiana Pacers (Oct. 28), and Philadelphia Sixers (Oct. 31) to D.C. during the month of October. The 2022-23 Wizards season will be presented by Capital One.
Looking forward to the Bullets this season they should be better to watch compared to last year.
 
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The latest legal ruling went agains the LIV golfers based on the "rules of membership" angle I anticipated coming into play previously.

That said the PGA tour had a right to set the limits and make the threats but it may backfire now that the Saudis just upped the money and started getting guys to jump. The PGAT backed themselves into a corner.

As for the Reed thing, the money is only part of the equation. I think money is exposing a lot of character issues with some of these guys. My opinion.

this is her basis for the ruling as I understand it…is there something more recent?


Judge Freeman, near the end of a Tuesday afternoon hearing in San Jose, Calif., said that she did not believe the players would suffer “irreparable harm” if they were not allowed to play, a vital legal standard to secure a temporary restraining order.
 

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this is her basis for the ruling as I understand it…is there something more recent?


Judge Freeman, near the end of a Tuesday afternoon hearing in San Jose, Calif., said that she did not believe the players would suffer “irreparable harm” if they were not allowed to play, a vital legal standard to secure a temporary restraining order.

That's a dismissal of the specific complaint by the plaintiffs and there's not a direct ruling on the antitrust element since that trial won't even start for another year, but there was also this which implies support for the PGA Tour's membership sovereignty and rules:


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So it's not exact and not rock solid but it's pointing in that direction. If they were making less money on the LIV tour the judgment might or might not be different.

I think it's interesting that the guaranteed money is only an ADVANCE on future winnings. So it's kind of a safety net but they have to chip away to make more than that.

Still, it's sportswashing money for a country that, for all our faults, still lags well behind us in human rights. So that alone is disqualifying for me.


 
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