Nathan MacKinnon, on par with the best in business?

[Mr Kot]

As of right now. I would take Mackinnon over McDavid if I was starting a team and I could only have one of them.

Look, while I believe other players can do well enough to keep pace with him, he literally can drag a team like the Oilers to a cup final. Very few players in the history of the NHL can do that. It's why he is considered top 10 already, and possibly fighting for top 5 at this point despite his lack of cup. Hell, I used to swear by the cup argument myself until seeing him play. It's just impossible to ignore his talent.

MacKinnon can match his pace, sure, just like other players like Kucherov or Drai can at times. But that's the thing; it's only sometimes and not consistent enough to say any of them are better. The fact that McDavid was a threat from day one makes him ahead of them easily. It would be absolutely silly to take anyone other than him with a clean slate.

 

[Murzu]

As of right now. I would take Mackinnon over McDavid if I was starting a team and I could only have one of them.

Even with the numbers presented in the opening post, it's a shame people laugh at you. As if different opinions aren't allowed to exist.

 

[TruePowerSlave]

What is even the argument for MacKinnon over McDavid?

One has achieved much more in the league. Even last season McDavid posted a playoff run MacKinnon will never match.

 

[Goose]

Even with the numbers presented in the opening post, it's a shame people laugh at you. As if different opinions aren't allowed to exist.

Nobody said his opinion isn’t allowed did they?

What’s happening is that you can’t accept that the majority of people disagree with his and your opinion.

Unable to accept that, you paint others as “disallowing” the opinion, making yourselves out to be some sort of victims, when in reality you’ve just taken a position most people believe is wrong, and some people find so wrong they laugh at it.

 

[Murzu]

Nobody said his opinion isn’t allowed did they?

What’s happening is that you can’t accept that the majority of people disagree with his and your opinion.

Unable to accept that, you paint others as “disallowing” the opinion, making yourselves out to be some sort of victims, when in reality you’ve just taken a position most people believe is wrong, and some people find so wrong they laugh at it.

I'm actually arguing if McDavid and MacKinnon are pretty much equal, not stating he is better.

Also I don't feel like a victim. Just a shame that people can't present their opinions without getting laughed at. The guy didn't say anything outrageous like the Earth is flat or something line that.

 

[PaulD]

What is even the argument for MacKinnon over McDavid?

One has achieved much more in the league. Even last season McDavid posted a playoff run MacKinnon will never match.

and yet still Looked very average in game 7 with the Cup on the line. He us human after all.
I like Mackinnon over McDavid this season. By a nose.

 

[Frank Drebin]

What is even the argument for MacKinnon over McDavid?

One has achieved much more in the league. Even last season McDavid posted a playoff run MacKinnon will never match.

"I don't like McDavid or the Oilers"

 

[Frank Drebin]

and yet still Looked very average in game 7 with the Cup on the line. He us human after all.
I like Mackinnon over McDavid this season. By a nose.

Mackinnon is a great player.
Hasn't done much without the once in a lifetime roster around him that he had in 2022 where he finished 4th in team scoring in the SCF, and third on his team in overall scoring.

 

[PaulD]

Mackinnon is a great player.
Hasn't done much without the once in a lifetime roster around him that he had in 2022 where he finished 4th in team scoring in the SCF, and third on his team in overall scoring.

I heard he won a Hart and Art Ross last season.

 

[Frank Drebin]

I heard he won a Hart and Art Ross last season.

First time?

 

[daver]

I heard he won a Hart and Art Ross last season.

You heard wrong.