Should be basically nothing. I don't know why anyone would give them anything of value for him.
This came up before. I am still saying I would only take him for free, and then only after July 7th or so if I had somehow completely failed to address our needs in free agency and was still somehow sitting on $10M of unused Cap. Which ought to be equivalent to saying “pass”/no way.
Makes him a perfect middle ground solution for us fans arguing whether we should sign another player or let the kids play.
I feel like we should sign about FOUR players... AND let the kids play. We have room to do both of those things.
That was more of a joke, but yeah, while I don't know if I'd go for four those things don't rule each other out.I feel like we should sign about FOUR players... AND let the kids play. We have room to do both of those things.
Hmm. Well, we fired Hinote, right? Is Taylor coming up as an assistant here, then?
I think we have ample room for 2F + 2D. And that's not even including bringing Lankinen or some other veteran backup goalie in if the consensus is that Askarov isn't ready. I think I already posted my roster along these lines somewhere here.
That's an overpayment unless you just want to dump Tomasino for some reason.
A 3rd and a guy who we probably waive doesn't seem like that high of a cost to me. I do think it is tough to assess Laine's value though. Will be interesting to see what he eventually goes for and if Columbus will retain to get more value out of him. Realistically I don't think Laine is much of Bruno/Trotz type of player so I doubt we even kick the tires on it though.
Massive one. He's only played 129 of the last 246 games. Granted, was ~PPG for 2 of those partial seasons. But you can't be giving up any worthwhile assets AND taking on that contract for a guy that has a 50/50 shot of being in the lineup. Like Nichushkin, there is really big upside here, but it has to literally be a gift for me to want to add that into our mix. And even then, you basically have to roster build around the idea they won't be available.
I guess I just don't see Tomasino and a 3rd as that valuable of assets. Tomasino doesn't really have that much trade value and we have an abundance of picks already. The contract is brutal for sure but it's only two years long and if he does struggle to stay in the lineup then it opens up an opportunity for one of the prospects to step up. The only downside is if we're actually going big game hunting this offseason and are going to need that cap space, but there is a good chance we go into the season with a ton of cap space again.
He hasn't scored 40 goals since '17-'18. Pace is great and all, but if you don't play more than 55 games a season you aren't going to be a 40 goal scorer. Right now he's $8.7 million a year for 50-55 points. Assuming he's not exiled to the 4th line at 10 minutes a night, I feel pretty confident Tomasino could hit 50-55 points--or at least 40-45. It may take him a full season to do it, but he'd also do it at 1/8 the cost.
What do we have to lose if we try with him, though?
Those are definitely the only two uses of $8.7M cap space and potentially prospects/young players/picks.
Dude, it’s not like we’re up against the cap. We have like 30 mil to spare.
If he was being given away at that kind of cost, heck yeah. But he very definitely is not.
Part of the issue is that IMO the Jackets' biggest needs are Shutdown Defense and Skilled* Mentors, and Nashville doesn't really have those to spare.
Based on his rates if he'd stayed healthy we'd be talking about a 30+ goal, nearly point per game level player. That would take significantly more than Tomasino to get. I know the shine has worn off of Laine a little bit but I'm kind of surprised by how low people are rating him here. I thought Tomasino + 3rd was a lowball offer.
And I'd be willing to pay it. But we are talking about a massive caphit on a player that misses significant time yearly. Nearly 9 million in cap wrapped up in someone that has missed as much time as he has over the past 4 seasons isn't something I'd be willing to throw alot of resources at. Take 9 million a shake it at some UFAs like Reinhart
Tomasino wouldn't have value up here anyways, honestly. The number of wingers in the Jackets' system makes the logjam in Nashville/Milwaukee look positively barren.
